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Kea Joenee



Joined: 09 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:22 pm    Post subject: sparkling... Reply with quote

A man working at Home Plus whom I met went to college in Kentucky for a few year--he speaks perfect English.

No one at immigration is anywhere close to fluent in English.

Did I go on a bad day, or is this just the way Korea is?

....I think it's just Korea. Before I lived in Seoul, I visited here, and I had to let a 10-year old kid help me at a bus station because the foreigner desk couldn't speak English at all.
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jkelly80



Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't say sparkling, it's a racial slur, apparently.
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mayorgc



Joined: 19 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i've also met a guy at homeplus, who was korean, who spoke surprisingly good english. What's a guy like that working in the meat department? He was a pretty good guy too, helpful.
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GwangjuParents



Joined: 31 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The guy may speak perfect English, but in Korea it's the official tests that determine where you go. The paper test is what counts most.

Maybe he didn't do well on the tests. Or maybe just doesn't want to work for the gov't.
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Straphanger



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Chilgok, Korea

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jkelly80 wrote:
Don't say sparkling, it's a racial slur, apparently.

In this case, yes, he's using it in a disparaging manner.

I worked with this girl who went to New York for five years before she came back home to teach. She was a fantastic actress. America, Sparkling!
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Jane



Joined: 01 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The couple who work at my morning coffee place speak great English, better than most Koreans I meet, or at my work. Yet, they serve coffee.

They want to leave Korea though and go back to the States.
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ekul



Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Being able to speak English doesn't necessarily qualify you to be an immigration official. There are plenty of kids that can speak English well because they have lived in the Philippines or India but they are not smart kids, at least in an academic sense.
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Xuanzang



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could have had a hot powered job but then a mental breakdown. Or he doesnt have the papers - the sejongs or the SKY degrees.
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jkelly80



Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Straphanger wrote:
jkelly80 wrote:
Don't say sparkling, it's a racial slur, apparently.

In this case, yes, he's using it in a disparaging manner.


So, basically, a white person cannot make a negative assessment of a non-white person.
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harlowethrombey



Joined: 17 Mar 2009
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Straphanger wrote:
jkelly80 wrote:
Don't say sparkling, it's a racial slur, apparently.

In this case, yes, he's using it in a disparaging manner.

I worked with this girl who went to New York for five years before she came back home to teach. She was a fantastic actress. America, Sparkling!


Actually using a word in a disparaging manner doesnt automatically make it racist, genius. See I used a word to disparage you and yet I'm not insutling your race, no matter what it may be.

While I think always using 'sparkling' when something is wrong with Korea is getting pretty lame it's not even in the same context as 'Kimberly'. You see, Sparkling is an advertising campaign for THE COUNTRY. NOT THE RACE. If you dont like something about THE COUNTRY it doesnt automatically mean you're implying THE RACE is bad, too.

Rolling Eyes

Just as you attempted to yet again insult America, you're also not being racist because 'America' isnt a race.

You know, for someone who certainly puts off an air of being smugly intellecutally superior you rarely seem to think your insults through. Sparkling.
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which immigration office?

I'm impressed by the level of English at the Jungno office. It's quite wonderful. I can remember earlier in the decade when many there didn't communicate well in English. I really appreciate how things have changed.
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The Cosmic Hum



Joined: 09 May 2003
Location: Sonic Space

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

harlowethrombey wrote:
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You see, Sparkling is an advertising campaign for THE COUNTRY. NOT THE RACE. If you dont like something about THE COUNTRY it doesnt automatically mean you're implying THE RACE is bad, too.


Korean is now a race? Wink hmm...they do always seem to be in a hurry...racing around here and there. Very Happy

Not sure you thought that one through...as you did mention the part about American not being a race. Wink

Quote:
you're also not being racist because 'America' isnt a race.


...all in good fun. Cool
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Forward Observer



Joined: 13 Jan 2009
Location: FOB Gloria

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got you all beat. At work (Top Korean company) I was eating at the cafeteria. DISHWASHER outside smoking a cig, speaks to me in near perfect English. Lived in Virginia and drove a cab for 25 years and came back to Korea. No formal education, but a really nice guy.
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ChinaBoy



Joined: 17 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jkelly80 wrote:
Straphanger wrote:
jkelly80 wrote:
Don't say sparkling, it's a racial slur, apparently.

In this case, yes, he's using it in a disparaging manner.


So, basically, a white person cannot make a negative assessment of a non-white person.


Yeah, ain't the world great these days?
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travelingfool



Joined: 10 Mar 2008
Location: Parents' basement

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The solution to this problem is simple......LEARN TO SPEAK KOREAN!!!!!!

I rarely have anything good to say about Korea except when talking about their pizza, medical care, and public transportation, all of which are great in my opinion. The point is that I am not an apologist in the slightest. I get really pissed off when immigrants come to the US and expect us the cater to them in their native language. I get even more angry when foreigners refuse or have no interest in learning English or anything about our history or culture. What I am saying is that for me to waltz into immigration or a bank in Korea and get all indignant about them not speaking English would be extremely hypocritical.

This bears repeating again.....LEARN TO SPEAK KOREAN, or Chinese, Spanish, Russian, or whatever the language is where you are going. Not only will it make life easier and help you connect with the locals, it will also make teaching more effective, but I digress.
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