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OneWayTraffic



Joined: 14 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 3:49 pm    Post subject: Bicycle theft. Reply with quote

My wife had her bike stolen from outside our apartment yesterday. It was immobilised with a standard combination cable lock, but that obviously didn't deter the thief much. How do you guys secure your bikes?

It was a pretty cheap steel ladies bike with a basket and baby seat. Guess I'm in the market for another.
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bluelake



Joined: 01 Dec 2005

PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately, bicycle theft in Korea is all too common; we've had a couple ripped off (years ago) and they were pretty nice bikes (one was just bought at the time).

How did you wrap the cable lock? Some people just go through the wheel rim, which will often result in one wheel being left behind (there's one here at the university that's been attached to a bike rack for a couple months). You need to make sure it's also wrapped through the bike frame itself; to take it, a thief would have to sever the cable (or know the combination).
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OneWayTraffic



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We're pretty sure he either picked it or cut it. I've seen youtube videos on how to pick a combo lock.
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bluelake



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In that case, probably not much could be done preventatively.
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OneWayTraffic



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bluelake wrote:
In that case, probably not much could be done preventatively.


Well yeah. One thing I did in NZ was lock the frame and back wheel with a U lock, and then lock the front wheel and frame to a post or bike stand with a cable lock. Never had it stolen. It's pretty unlikely someone will have the tools/skills to defeat two entirely different forms of locks.
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toonchoon



Joined: 06 Feb 2009
Location: Gangnam

PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry to hear about the bike theft! i always just think it's such a safe country, where stuff doesn't get stolen.

i don't even lock up my scooter, but I probably should put a lock on the wheel, just to deter any possible thief. then again, who wants to steal an old ugly daelim scooter? maybe...
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yoja



Joined: 30 May 2008

PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I I had friends who lived in the "ghettos" around Newark, New Jersey, they would wrap the bike frame in duct tape, or something so that it looked trashy. Their cushy bike seat would still get stolen sometimes, though. Evil or Very Mad
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giraffe



Joined: 07 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My gf got one of those portable bikes she can fold and bring into the apt. That could be a good option for you.
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OneWayTraffic



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a parking area in the basement. Not secure, but out of sight. Just getting lazy I guess.
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OneWayTraffic



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

toonchoon wrote:
sorry to hear about the bike theft! i always just think it's such a safe country, where stuff doesn't get stolen.

i don't even lock up my scooter, but I probably should put a lock on the wheel, just to deter any possible thief. then again, who wants to steal an old ugly daelim scooter? maybe...


Bicycle theft is pretty common in Seoul. Other people in our building have had bikes lifted as well.
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Snowflake



Joined: 12 Dec 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

toonchoon wrote:
sorry to hear about the bike theft! i always just think it's such a safe country, where stuff doesn't get stolen.

i don't even lock up my scooter, but I probably should put a lock on the wheel, just to deter any possible thief. then again, who wants to steal an old ugly daelim scooter? maybe...


Lock it up! Someone was desperate enough to steal my battered old Venus from outside my apartment last week and so I now have to buy a new one which pisses me off Evil or Very Mad
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harlowethrombey



Joined: 17 Mar 2009
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's common in Japan, too. Although you often just find your bike trashed in one of the 'mega lots' at a train station a month later (these places are like a post-apocalyptic bike wasteland).

I have no idea if this is true but my friends told me that its usually teenagers who just steal the bike either because A) they're late for a train/academy or B) they just feel too lazy to walk.


On the other side of this, before I left Japan I tried to get my bike stolen. The da*n thing had tried to kill me half a dozen times so it was either that or flip it into the river while I laughed maniacally from the bridge.


Of course no one stole it.
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OhioPBJ



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Gangnam

PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had a bicycle seat stolen and an entire bicycle stolen in the past 4 months.

After I got my bicycle seat stolen I decided to always bring my bicycle into my apartment. However, the first time I left it outside in 3 months, it got stolen. I'm pretty sure they cut through the lock with some bolt cutters, because it is fairly easy to cut through the locks that curl up into spirals. The best kind of lock to get is a U-lock, and always try to secure your bike through one of the tires.

If possible, always try to bring your bicycle in doors.
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Cohiba



Joined: 01 Feb 2005

PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your wife had a bike she kept outdoors, then it probably wasn't
much of a bike anyway. Korean locks, all made in China, are crap.
A good blow with a hammer will open the mechanism. Which is just
cast tin.

To keep your bike:

1/ Put it in your home at night.
2/ Use a Bulldog or Kryptonite lock.

I have a Bulldog "D" lock and I lock my bike's frame to anything
substantial before I leave it. (and I never leave it longer than an hour)
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OneWayTraffic



Joined: 14 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It wasn't locked to a solid object. So it's possible someone put it in a cart or something.

Buying a Kryptonite would cost more than the bike. We'll take it inside in future.

The bike cost 130,000won. Not the end of the world. It's just damn annoying.

Even two cheap locks can be better than one good one. A Ulock and a cable lock (especially the steel encased cables) is good as it takes different tools and methods to defeat each. But locking to a solid object is a must if it's gonna be outside. Learned our lesson.

The problem is that our parking garage is out of sight, but not locked. Someone could walk in at night though this hasn't happened yet. Carrying a bike up the stairs into our apt isn't really an option.
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