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Did anyone (Canadian) fill out the non-residency form yet?
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brento1138



Joined: 17 Nov 2004

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 12:19 am    Post subject: Did anyone (Canadian) fill out the non-residency form yet? Reply with quote

Just wondering if anyone here filled out form NR-73e (to avoid getting taxed to death when you get back)... and if you succeeded...
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Typhoon



Joined: 29 May 2007
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure about the e part, but I did fill out NR-73 two different times and both times I had no problems. Easy as 1-2-3.
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brento1138



Joined: 17 Nov 2004

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Typhoon wrote:
I'm not sure about the e part, but I did fill out NR-73 two different times and both times I had no problems. Easy as 1-2-3.


Did you check the box that says you are leaving Canada permanently?

Did they grant you non-residence status?
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Typhoon



Joined: 29 May 2007
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope. The first time I said I was leaving for 4 years that I knew of and then I would see what happened. I think there was a place for a note or I attached one at the end. I can't remember exactly. The 2nd time I said I would be out of the country for 10 years with no further explanation. Both times I was granted non-residency. I understand the guidelines for getting non-residency have changes several times over the last 15 years, but I believe that it is based on a points system of how many ties you have to Canada and your new country along with being out of the country for a certain period of time (it could be 2 years or that could be the old standard). There have been so many changes it is tough to remember exactly what the standards are.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is correct.

They consider your imminent return and ties to Canada against your possible non-return and ties to outside of Canada.

When I filed my nr73e (e for English) I had:

House and bank account in Canada - rented at arms length for full market value.
Investments, RRSP and mutual funds in Canada.

Here I have a wife (non-Canadian) and daughter (dual citizen), job, apartment, car, bank account, credit cards, pension and medical insurance, and several years residency.

I was determined to be non-resident and have filed taxes on my Canadian income as a non-resident and paid NO Canadian taxes on my foreign investments and income.

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fishy



Joined: 24 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As the others said, it is easy. My S.O. and I are non-residents. Before we sent in the form, however, we read the Canada/Korea tax treaty carefully. As long as you are outside of Canada for the minimum number of days, if your income earned in Korea is taxed in Korea, then it won't be taxed in Canada. The treaty is very clear on this point. It doesn't matter how many ties you have to Canada. It seems that the purpose of these international tax treaties is to allow folks to work abroad (especially for corporations) and not get double-taxed. Not so much of an issue for Korea/Canada, but think about a Canada/Sweden situation. Those Volvo execs. wouldn't be able to earn a dime. So regarding the form, the two important points seem to be: 1) are you living in a country that has a tax treaty with Canada? and 2) are you taxed by that country? But you don't have to take our word for it. The treaty is online and anyone can access it for him or herself. There are other handy pamphlets and documents as well to help you out with this.

BTW, the only tax we have to pay is 15% on our investment interest. It's good to tell your bank that as it's the bank's responsibility for withholding the tax. Normally, the bank will withhold 25% on your investment interest. That's the rate for many other countries. For Korea/Canada relations, however, it's only 15%. I believe that information is somewhere on the Canadian government's website as well.
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ursus_rex



Joined: 20 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul, ROK

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've lived in Korea for 8 years. I've never submitted such a form (I'm not certain they existed when I moved here).

Can they be made retroactive to time non-residency is declared?

Where do I get these forms?

I'm hoping there are not too many problems.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ursus_rex wrote:
I've lived in Korea for 8 years. I've never submitted such a form (I'm not certain they existed when I moved here).

Can they be made retroactive to time non-residency is declared?

Where do I get these forms?

I'm hoping there are not too many problems.


yes, they will back date it from the time you left home.

http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/E/pbg/tf/nr73/README.html
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Hope



Joined: 22 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the link. I've been here 7 years...good to know it can be back dated. I'll get on top of that immediately.
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Kwai_Chang_Kain



Joined: 16 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been in Korea for the past 3 years and haven't filed any taxes in Canada during that time. Will I be penalized if/when I ever decide to move back home?
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kwai_Chang_Kain wrote:
I've been in Korea for the past 3 years and haven't filed any taxes in Canada during that time. Will I be penalized if/when I decide to ever move back home?


Unlikely. You are covered by a reciprocal tax treaty while you are working here. As long as you pay taxes here you don't have to worry about home (unless you have investment or other income still from Canada.)
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