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hugekebab



Joined: 05 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 5:56 pm    Post subject: I think the head of my unis English dept. might be fired... Reply with quote

I'm being optomistic.

I have just realised that all of the teachers at my uni are quitting at the end of this semester. My manager doesn't yet realise this. To date, my uni has only been able to obtain 1 or at a stretch 2 teachers per term because everyone agrees to the job then takes a better offer (my manager has a really bad rep around my city.)

Basically this means my manager is fucked next semester. They need, at the very least, 4 teachers to manage the daytime semester classes. There's also an afterschool program. No teachers want to do this because we are all working at our peak contractual hours (which are double the most hours the Korean staff teach). Also, we are never asked or even informed we are doing them, we usually happen to see our names on a poster advertisment stating when our classes are. This has, amongst countless other things, caused some very bad will amongst all the foreign staff. There is zero communication, it's basically a 'shit drops down' technique taken to the limits.

My manager doesn't realise that I am handing my notice halfway through my contract because of the incompetence and unbelievably bad people skills that has resulted in a department with zero morale and total, furious outbursts of rage by teachers here at least once a week. Four other teachers are leaving at the end of their contract because of this. I think, once my manager realises that everyone is leaving, that the knife is going to be stuck in me for wanting to leave (as per the contract terms and conditions) halfway through.

Recently we have had a new chair of the English department and he was asking us lots of questions about our manager at the beggining of this semester(asking if we were happy) and not a single person spoke up because it was the first meeting, but the guy just kept asking and asking throughout the hour long meeting; I got the feeling he knows that there are problems. Now at least two teachers are handing in their resignation and then going to meet this guy to list all the incompetencies. I am considering doing this too, because I need to cover myself if the department head tries to stick a knife in my ribs to force me to stay i.e. no reference/won't cancel the visa. I've already decided, if blackmail is used, then I will speak to the chair.

How rare is it for a department head to be sacked in private unis? Has anyone here experienced it? Am I wishing for a miracle. If the department head is sacked then I will stay as will most, if not all the other teaching staff.

The mode retention rate of a teacher here is one year, which says it all.
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:11 pm    Post subject: Re: I think the head of my unis English dept. might be fired Reply with quote

hugekebab wrote:
I'm being optomistic.


Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Maybe you can poke him with a hugekebob on his way out the door. Wink
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harlowethrombey



Joined: 17 Mar 2009
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 5:04 am    Post subject: Re: I think the head of my unis English dept. might be fired Reply with quote

hugekebab wrote:
I'm being optomistic.

I have just realised that all of the teachers at my uni are quitting at the end of this semester. My manager doesn't yet realise this. To date, my uni has only been able to obtain 1 or at a stretch 2 teachers per term because everyone agrees to the job then takes a better offer (my manager has a really bad rep around my city.)

Basically this means my manager is fucked next semester. They need, at the very least, 4 teachers to manage the daytime semester classes. There's also an afterschool program. No teachers want to do this because we are all working at our peak contractual hours (which are double the most hours the Korean staff teach). Also, we are never asked or even informed we are doing them, we usually happen to see our names on a poster advertisment stating when our classes are. This has, amongst countless other things, caused some very bad will amongst all the foreign staff. There is zero communication, it's basically a 'shit drops down' technique taken to the limits.

My manager doesn't realise that I am handing my notice halfway through my contract because of the incompetence and unbelievably bad people skills that has resulted in a department with zero morale and total, furious outbursts of rage by teachers here at least once a week. Four other teachers are leaving at the end of their contract because of this. I think, once my manager realises that everyone is leaving, that the knife is going to be stuck in me for wanting to leave (as per the contract terms and conditions) halfway through.

Recently we have had a new chair of the English department and he was asking us lots of questions about our manager at the beggining of this semester(asking if we were happy) and not a single person spoke up because it was the first meeting, but the guy just kept asking and asking throughout the hour long meeting; I got the feeling he knows that there are problems. Now at least two teachers are handing in their resignation and then going to meet this guy to list all the incompetencies. I am considering doing this too, because I need to cover myself if the department head tries to stick a knife in my ribs to force me to stay i.e. no reference/won't cancel the visa. I've already decided, if blackmail is used, then I will speak to the chair.

How rare is it for a department head to be sacked in private unis? Has anyone here experienced it? Am I wishing for a miracle. If the department head is sacked then I will stay as will most, if not all the other teaching staff.

The mode retention rate of a teacher here is one year, which says it all.


The sh&t downhill. THe outbursts of rage. The incompetent company. The ridiculous, surprise schedules. The high turnover.

I swear this could be a review of any random Nova branch in Japan.

I think I can empathize with you.

Good luck, man.



(edited for one stupid spelling mistake)
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hugekebab



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 6:28 am    Post subject: Re: I think the head of my unis English dept. might be fired Reply with quote

cruisemonkey wrote:
hugekebab wrote:
I'm being optomistic.


Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Maybe you can poke him with a hugekebob on his way out the door. Wink


Look at what 'i' is next to on the keyboard; it was a typo. I just did a spellcheck and there were zero other mistakes, so cut me some slack as I didn't even check that before I posted! I doth protest too much.
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hugekebab



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 6:32 am    Post subject: Re: I think the head of my unis English dept. might be fired Reply with quote

harlowethrombey wrote:
hugekebab wrote:
I'm being optomistic.

I have just realised that all of the teachers at my uni are quitting at the end of this semester. My manager doesn't yet realise this. To date, my uni has only been able to obtain 1 or at a stretch 2 teachers per term because everyone agrees to the job then takes a better offer (my manager has a really bad rep around my city.)

Basically this means my manager is fucked next semester. They need, at the very least, 4 teachers to manage the daytime semester classes. There's also an afterschool program. No teachers want to do this because we are all working at our peak contractual hours (which are double the most hours the Korean staff teach). Also, we are never asked or even informed we are doing them, we usually happen to see our names on a poster advertisment stating when our classes are. This has, amongst countless other things, caused some very bad will amongst all the foreign staff. There is zero communication, it's basically a 'shit drops down' technique taken to the limits.

My manager doesn't realise that I am handing my notice halfway through my contract because of the incompetence and unbelievably bad people skills that has resulted in a department with zero morale and total, furious outbursts of rage by teachers here at least once a week. Four other teachers are leaving at the end of their contract because of this. I think, once my manager realises that everyone is leaving, that the knife is going to be stuck in me for wanting to leave (as per the contract terms and conditions) halfway through.

Recently we have had a new chair of the English department and he was asking us lots of questions about our manager at the beggining of this semester(asking if we were happy) and not a single person spoke up because it was the first meeting, but the guy just kept asking and asking throughout the hour long meeting; I got the feeling he knows that there are problems. Now at least two teachers are handing in their resignation and then going to meet this guy to list all the incompetencies. I am considering doing this too, because I need to cover myself if the department head tries to stick a knife in my ribs to force me to stay i.e. no reference/won't cancel the visa. I've already decided, if blackmail is used, then I will speak to the chair.

How rare is it for a department head to be sacked in private unis? Has anyone here experienced it? Am I wishing for a miracle. If the department head is sacked then I will stay as will most, if not all the other teaching staff.

The mode retention rate of a teacher here is one year, which says it all.


The sh&t downhill. THe outbursts of rage. The incompetent company. The ridiculous, surprise schedules. The high turnover.

I swear this could be a review of any random Nova branch in Japan.

I think I can empathize with you.

Good luck, man.




(edited for one stupid spelling mistake)


Thanks mate!

I'll let you know what happens after my resignation on Monday or Tuesday.
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cdninkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's the compensation package like (vacation, teaching hours, pay, housing) and location? I guess whatever it is, it's not worth putting up with such horrible mismanagement.

Best of luck with your resignation and your hunt for a new job!
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:54 am    Post subject: Re: I think the head of my unis English dept. might be fired Reply with quote

hugekebab wrote:
I doth protest too much.

No shit... To be honest, I didn't notice the spelling until you 'mentioned' it. Chill out... and poke him with a hugekebab on his way out the door. Wink
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Milwaukiedave



Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong

PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP,

Please keep us posted on this. Especially with all the teachers leaving. It could be interesting hearing what eventually happens and whether the head of the department does get fired. I would guess that would be pretty rare here in Korea.
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hugekebab



Joined: 05 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, Milwaukee Dave asked me some questions:

How many teachers are in your department and how many are leaving?

5 teachers; all will be leaving by September. 3 are not renewing, 1 has been told he won't be invited to renew and I am resigning mid contract (according to the contract termination clause.) There are no other teachers on staff. We will be mentioning this to the chair of the English department, as it will be almost impossible judging by past recruitment failures to fill the bare minimum semester requirement of 4 teachers. At least two to three teachers will be meeting with the chair to complain, not including myself (I want to see how the meeting with the manager goes first.)


What has the turnover rate been like since you've been there?

We were all talking about this last night. Nearly all teachers have only stayed for one year or less. The exceptions are those currently on staff, all of whom have decided not to renew or to quit. We are going to bring this fact up with the chair of the English department.

I am meeting with the manager this week; I am considering taping the conversation because I expect some threats.

Question: Are taped conversations admissable in employment tribunals in Korea? This isn't normally the sort of thing I would do, but the other professor here has been taping conversations to cover himself.


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hugekebab



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 7:25 pm    Post subject: Re: I think the head of my unis English dept. might be fired Reply with quote

cruisemonkey wrote:
hugekebab wrote:
I doth protest too much.

No shit... To be honest, I didn't notice the spelling until you 'mentioned' it. Chill out... and poke him with a hugekebab on his way out the door. Wink


Sorry dude, I was having a bad day because of the work shit. Embarassed
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hugekebab



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cdninkorea wrote:
What's the compensation package like (vacation, teaching hours, pay, housing) and location? I guess whatever it is, it's not worth putting up with such horrible mismanagement.

Best of luck with your resignation and your hunt for a new job!


4 weeks(but we usually have 2 months summer and 2 winter), 2 mil, apt on campus, 18 hours, usually with a special class on top.
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Tobias



Joined: 02 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 12:07 am    Post subject: Re: I think the head of my unis English dept. might be fired Reply with quote

hugekebab wrote:
....

The mode retention rate of a teacher here is one year, which says it all.


That's a school we all want to work for. 100% or greater turnover. I definitely want to work there next.

cruisemonkey wrote:

Maybe you can poke him with a hugekebob on his way out the door. :wink:


Or maybe, just maybe, you can quit NOW and leave it all behind in a cloud of dust?

"I work for a POS outfit that is holding a gun to my head forcing my ass to stay there, so I'm screwed until the end..."
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Milwaukiedave



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Location: Goseong

PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taping conversations? Wow, it must be bad.
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hugekebab



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is!
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 5:46 am    Post subject: Re: I think the head of my unis English dept. might be fired Reply with quote

hugekebab wrote:
I have just realised that all of the teachers at my uni are quitting at the end of this semester. My manager doesn't yet realise this. To date, my uni has only been able to obtain 1 or at a stretch 2 teachers per term because everyone agrees to the job then takes a better offer (my manager has a really bad rep around my city.)

Please tell me you work at Kunsan U and Park is finally getting his ass kicked out.
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