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dmbfan



Joined: 09 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:52 pm    Post subject: Trinity vs Cambridge Reply with quote

Well, I am at the point of really wanting upgrade, learn and grow as an ESL instructor. My 100 TEFL Certifcate from I.T.T.T. was fine for Korea and I did learn quite a bit.

But Korea is.....well, it is what it is. Now, I'm not point the finger at korea but it is time to be able be in a position where more options (teacher trainer, DoS, etc) can be open.


So, I'm going to do either the Trinity TEFL or Cambridge CELTA.

Does anyone have an opinion on either one? Yes, I am doing my research. Oh, come to find out.....most TEFL courses are not backed by Trinity (including Via Lingua) and are copies, only.

I would like to stick with teaching YL's for the most part. But, some more experience with adults would be great. More importantly, I want that qualifcation that can open more doors in different countries.

OH.......anyone have any opinions on obtaining a TESOL DIPLOMA from the London Teachers Training College?


Thank you!

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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although all would provide some benefit as a teacher, I think the TESOL diploma sounds like a better idea. I am assuming you will be able to continue your education with that school at a later date, and possibly get a real teachers degree? You've been around a while. Think long-term.
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dmbfan



Joined: 09 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Although all would provide some benefit as a teacher, I think the TESOL diploma sounds like a better idea. I am assuming you will be able to continue your education with that school at a later date, and possibly get a real teachers degree? You've been around a while. Think long-term.



True.

However, the Diploma for the LTTC is online/distance. I'm a little tired of reading job advertisements that say "NO online/distance courses are accepted".

I am thinking long term but I have to make sure I make the right move. I really don't have the funds to obtain a Masters. But, I'm not getting any younger and despite my bullshit ramblings about Korea, I consider myself to be a pretty solid teacher. I just know that I can learn more...and I WANT to learn more.

So.....LTTC TESOL Diploma................Trinity TEFL......or CELTA?


Actually, I will say this. I have talked with a few people involved in the process and they have said the students with the hardest time during the course are those who have taught in Asia, especially Korea.

Either.....

1. They did jack shit as an instructor
2. Learned too many bad habits.
3. Were not able to handle an instructor telling him/her that all she/he
has been doing as an instructor is wrong.


It can really bruise some egos. But, I can understand that. You think you are doing a good job in Korea and then learn......dam, I suck. Although, working with Koreans in the ESL industry is not very motivating form many.

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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmbfan wrote:
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Although all would provide some benefit as a teacher, I think the TESOL diploma sounds like a better idea. I am assuming you will be able to continue your education with that school at a later date, and possibly get a real teachers degree? You've been around a while. Think long-term.



True.

However, the Diploma for the LTTC is online/distance. I'm a little tired of reading job advertisements that say "NO online/distance courses are accepted".


Wow, wonder where you're searching for jobs.

Never seen that one.
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dmbfan



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen it pleanty of times with schools/companies that PAY good salaries.

I'd like to venture out in Thailand or Veitnam. But, I don't want the scrub jobs with the scrub pay. It's time to move up the ladder a little, ya know?

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The Gipkik



Joined: 30 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do yourself a favor and get some teacher training that involves someone actually observing you and critiquing you. I took a certificate 2 and a half years after I started teaching and the bad habits I picked up were legion. Too many "teachers" have this wrong headed notion that if they are popular with their students and the teachers seem to like them then they must be doing a good job. All I can say from personal experience is that they could be doing a lot better. Both CELTA and the TRINITY Cert are great as they involve external validation and give you lots of practicum and observation.

The online/distance programs are cheap and they are for cowboys or teachers who actually know what they are doing--that means trained and qualified people who are native English speakers have already observed them--several times. You decide. Bottom line is don't cheat the students of the best you can give them.
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Woden



Joined: 08 Mar 2007
Location: Eurasia

PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
dmbfan wrote:
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Although all would provide some benefit as a teacher, I think the TESOL diploma sounds like a better idea. I am assuming you will be able to continue your education with that school at a later date, and possibly get a real teachers degree? You've been around a while. Think long-term.



True.

However, the Diploma for the LTTC is online/distance. I'm a little tired of reading job advertisements that say "NO online/distance courses are accepted".


Wow, wonder where you're searching for jobs.

Never seen that one.


Also, if you get an online accreditation through a university, it doesn't say online, as it's the same qualification as in attendance. I've also never seen jobs say 'no online quals'. I've studied online through two universities and never had to tell anyone it was an online course.
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Michael_75



Joined: 13 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a Trinity TESOL Cert that I did in Barcelona. It's only a month so obviously doesn't constitute serious teacher training but you do get lesson planning experience and teaching experience with a lot of feedback.

I found it useful when coming here as I had at least an idea of what to expect and how to handle it. However during the course I taught adults and so got no experience of discipline or classroom management.

As to whether one is better than the other I couldn't say as I didn't do both... However I do know that those two are the only ones that can claim to be acknowledged pretty much everywhere (the name didn't mean much here though, they were only interested in the course hours).

If you're looking for serious career development as opposed to a good introduction to teaching though perhaps the diploma would be much more suitable. I'm not sure though whether you need to have the certificate first. Probably not.
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