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Who is the BEST agency or company to work with?

 
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melbutch



Joined: 13 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:41 am    Post subject: Who is the BEST agency or company to work with? Reply with quote

I�m a recent college graduate who is planning to move to South Korea to teach English in the fall, and I�m overwhelmed by the variety of agencies and companies for teachers. I�ve read a multitude of horror stories on these forums, but there is not a lot about really positive experiences. So now I�m wondering: in your opinion, what is the best agency to work with?

By �best�, I mean a few different things; who is the most reputable? Who provides the best benefits and highest salaries? Who provides reliable pre- and post-departure support for questions and concerns? Who have you had a positive experience with?

(It may be helpful to note that I have a B.A. in International Studies and Political Science and do not have TEFL or CELTA certification. I have two years of teaching experience abroad.)

I really look forward to your feedback! Smile
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Ukon



Joined: 29 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A good School under SMOE or GEPIK/EPIK would probaly be best....

Truth be told, it really deals with local staff at whatever branch/school....even wonderland has good branches.....
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...

PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are thousands of schools employing E2 English teachers in Korea. Most will employ one to three foreign English teachers. There are hundreds of medium sized schools employing four to ten foreign English teachers. There are a small number of very large schools employing more than ten E2 English teachers in a single location.

Of course the chains have large numbers, but for the most part, each branch will have just a small number of native English teachers on staff, and for most purposes, it will be similar to other schools of that size that are not part of a chain.

You should read up on Dave's, and when you find a school that you like, do a search for that school.
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melbutch



Joined: 13 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The reason why this is a little confusing to me is because there are SO many negative posts about the practices of EPIK/GEPIK and other companies/recruiting agencies. Yet there are very few posts about having a positive support experience. Are all those complaints the exception rather than the rule?
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Otherside



Joined: 06 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

melbutch wrote:
The reason why this is a little confusing to me is because there are SO many negative posts about the practices of EPIK/GEPIK and other companies/recruiting agencies. Yet there are very few posts about having a positive support experience. Are all those complaints the exception rather than the rule?


There are plenty of negative posts about GEPIK/EPIK for the following reasons.
1. Some people are completly irrational and complain about anything (lifeinkorea's recent thread was a classic example - he obscured the facts so much that it seemed he was being horribly wronged, when it fact the school was following the contract, just didn't run things how he liked)

2. Most people having a good time, don't post much on Dave's. People with gripes, complaints or in need of assistance post on Daves. You are going to see far more "OMG my boss didn't pay me" than "I had a pretty average day, taught some English, watched some TV, downloaded some porn, the usual."

3. GEPIK/EPIK is a bureaucracy...

4. Like with many things in the Korea, things aren't uniform. One school may be great, another school may not be. Even if your school is following the contract to a T. people will complain if others are getting preferential treatment (i.e. some schools give extra vacation days...those without complain).

5. There are some legitimate complaints.

I'm in my 2nd year with GEPIK (3rd in Korea) and I'd vouch for the public system. Most of my friends have had a pretty good experience with GEPIK and going to the teacher meetings/conferences, the majority of people I speak to are having an average to good experience with GEPIK. There are some bad eggs in the basket (school-wise/administrator-wise) but whereas the downside with a Hagwon/Private school is that you don't get insurance, pension, paid and then kicked out of your apartment...the chance of this happening in the public system is almost unheard of. (and there is a chain of command that can be followed, if in all unlikelyness it does happen)
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lookingforworkinasia



Joined: 14 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EPIK/GEPIK/SMOE generally maintains a certain standards of paying you on time and avoiding problems that could be construed as fraud, which is a blanket statement that can't be uniformly applied to Hagwons. Additionally, most public school jobs will offer better working hours, benefits, etc. than the private sector. There are exceptions of course, but in general this is a good way of looking at it.

That being said, I'm currently considering breaking my EPIK contract and looking for a new job. For the most part I'm very happy with my position. All my students and co-workers are great, and I've had very few problems that I haven't been able to work out with just a friendly conversation. I've actually stayed as long as I have specifically because I love my school so much. I'm thinking about leaving because dealing with EPIK, as an organization, is just...yeah. Let me put it this way: Even though my job is great, I regret having to deal with EPIK in order to get it.
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