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hockeyguy109
Joined: 22 Dec 2008
Location: Daegu
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 Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:38 am Post subject: Downloading movies and music in Korea |
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| Just out of curiosity, what is the attitude towards illegally downloading music and movies off the internet in Korea? In America, nobody really cares or gets caught. Is it the same way in Korea or do they bust people? |
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blurgalurgalurga
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| Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:39 am Post subject: |
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| so far, so good. |
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harlowethrombey
Joined: 17 Mar 2009
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:55 am Post subject: |
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many bars you go to can fulfill your song requests because they're signed on to Limewire.
Selling bootleg DVDs on the street is technically illegal, too.
So is prostitution.
supposedly they're going to start cracking down on it more. supposedly we're going to build a colony on Mars, too.
go figure. |
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Ukon
Joined: 29 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:58 am Post subject: Re: Downloading movies and music in Korea |
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| hockeyguy109 wrote: |
| Just out of curiosity, what is the attitude towards illegally downloading music and movies off the internet in Korea? In America, nobody really cares or gets caught. Is it the same way in Korea or do they bust people? |
Let me put it this way.....there aren't many legit dealers of cds and games here....There isn't even a chain similar to game stop back in the west.
Many games use a payment model tied to being online and buying in-game items while the actual game itself is free with no subscription in many cases. |
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waynehead
Joined: 18 Apr 2006
Location: Jongno
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| Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 1:07 am Post subject: |
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Downloading illegally back home, you have a, what?, 1/10,000 chance the recording industry and/or movie industry might be tracking you.
Here there's no chance. Have at it. I know I do. I used to go to Yongsan when I first got here to get movies and whatever...now I just download whatever I want whenever I want from isohunt or the pirate bay. Good times. |
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coralreefer_1
Joined: 19 Jan 2009
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| Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 2:41 am Post subject: |
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As I have always understood it, the record/motion picture industries are more concerned with those who are distributing music/movies more than the average pc user downloading.
If you have thousands of songs or hundreds of movies on your pc and are sharing that constantly I would imagine you are in more danger. |
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Sector7G
Joined: 24 May 2008
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| Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 3:42 am Post subject: |
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| waynehead wrote: |
Downloading illegally back home, you have a, what?, 1/10,000 chance the recording industry and/or movie industry might be tracking you.
Here there's no chance. Have at it. I know I do. I used to go to Yongsan when I first got here to get movies and whatever...now I just download whatever I want whenever I want from isohunt or the pirate bay. Good times. |
I agree with the part of getting away with here in Korea. But I was under the impression that they busted people frequently back in the USA. Maybe I just read some high profile cases involving a university. Anyway, I was too paranoid to do it there. |
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Ukon
Joined: 29 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 4:26 am Post subject: |
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| Getting busted was exceedingly rare. ....they usually just sent letters to you and your ISP and hoped that would scare you away or scare the ISP into telling you not to download. |
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ryoga013
Joined: 23 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 4:41 am Post subject: |
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| In Japan they can find you and convince the telecommunications company to deny you service or to sue the company for "aiding and abetting" but in Korea, it's the norm. Especially if it's a movie that isn't licensed by a Korean company, they could really care less. Think of it in terms of jaywalking.... |
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moosehead
Joined: 05 May 2007
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| Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 6:48 am Post subject: |
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hey gotta make good on those internet fees I'm payin' 
must be some reason K likes to have such fast downloading speeds - figured they were just encouraging us folks to take advantage so why not?   |
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Gimpokid
Joined: 09 Nov 2008
Location: Best Gimpo
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| Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 7:04 am Post subject: |
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Confuscious said it was immoral to pay for any online content. Koreans adhere to this. I actually heard that's why WoW is free to download here and only playable by slightly more expensive prepay cards because buying software and then paying a monthly fee is so objectionable to Koreans that they would just find a way to steal it or not play at all.
Anyway yeah it's a crime, but so is seeing a wee wee or cooter on yur computer and everybody does it anyway. I wouldn't worry too much. |
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Sector7G
Joined: 24 May 2008
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| Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Gimpokid wrote: |
Confuscious said it was immoral to pay for any online content. Koreans adhere to this. I actually heard that's why WoW is free to download here and only playable by slightly more expensive prepay cards because buying software and then paying a monthly fee is so objectionable to Koreans that they would just find a way to steal it or not play at all.
Anyway yeah it's a crime, but so is seeing a wee wee or cooter on yur computer and everybody does it anyway. I wouldn't worry too much. |
Is it really? Do you mean anywhere or just in Korea? Even for basic, consenting adult type stuff? I didn't know that.
Anyway, the everybody does it excuse may help one sleep better at night, but I doubt it would help much if the movie and record companies wanted to get serious.
I don't think the jaywalking analogy fits at all. Because it is theft, plain and simple. It probably is costing those companies brazilians of dollars a year. And I am not preaching because I have done it too. I am just calling a spade a spade. |
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crossmr
Joined: 22 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Because it is theft, plain and simple. It probably is costing those companies brazilians of dollars a year. And I am not preaching because I have done it too. I am just calling a spade a spade. |
If you're going to call a spade a spade, you might want to first make sure you know what a spade is.
Do you have any evidence that anyone who downloaded anything would have otherwise bought it if it was unavailable for download? Until you can prove those cases you have no justification for claiming any of those companies lost a penny unless their resources were somehow used up or spent in the acquisition or use of the copy. (e.g. an online game that when pirated still allowed you to use the companies servers) This is the biggest flaw in any argument someone tries to make against copyright infringement is when they try to compare it to the theft of physical goods and services which have a finite supply. |
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Sector7G
Joined: 24 May 2008
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| Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Because it is theft, plain and simple. It probably is costing those companies brazilians of dollars a year. And I am not preaching because I have done it too. I am just calling a spade a spade. |
If you're going to call a spade a spade, you might want to first make sure you know what a spade is.
Do you have any evidence that anyone who downloaded anything would have otherwise bought it if it was unavailable for download? Until you can prove those cases you have no justification for claiming any of those companies lost a penny unless their resources were somehow used up or spent in the acquisition or use of the copy. (e.g. an online game that when pirated still allowed you to use the companies servers) This is the biggest flaw in any argument someone tries to make against copyright infringement is when they try to compare it to the theft of physical goods and services which have a finite supply. |
Okay, well first of all, lighten up. I am not out to rid the world of copyright infringement-like I said, I occasionally download myself.
But strictly for conversation purposes, when you take or use something for free that you are supposed to be paying for, that is called theft.
If I understand your argument, you are saying the companies are not really "losing" any revenue because these down loaders would not have bought it otherwise. Hence, in your mind, it's not really "lost" revenue. Which is nonsense.
The biggest flaw in your argument, and it's hard to explain to guys like you, is that something does not have to be touchable or finite to be protected. Have you ever heard of the concept of "proprietary ownership"?
Here is a link that explains some of the laws. This one says it best:
While the courts have not ruled that file sharing or P2P software itself is illegal (and there are lawful uses of such software programs), the use of these programs to download or share unauthorized copyrighted material�like songs, movies, games, and other software�without the permission of the owner of the copyright, is illegal and can lead to significant civil financial liability and potential criminal liability.
http://netservices.verizon.net/portal/site/msa/?action=alertview&epi-content=GENERICCONTENT&epi_menuItemID=3b5b13ac7c2403335f23b61153295c48&fr=y&hsl=true&id=filesharing_faqs&nv=F-ii-1&viewID=content |
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Xuanzang
Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang
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| Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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| coralreefer_1 wrote: |
As I have always understood it, the record/motion picture industries are more concerned with those who are distributing music/movies more than the average pc user downloading.
If you have thousands of songs or hundreds of movies on your pc and are sharing that constantly I would imagine you are in more danger. |
Well sometimes the record companies sue grandmas or 13 year olds. |
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