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okokok
Joined: 27 Aug 2006
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 Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:08 am Post subject: We are our own worst enemy |
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http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/opinon/2009/04/137_43476.html
Why do so many out there feel the need to bash everyone else and make the whole community look bad. This happens again and again.
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Don�t Be Like the West
By Haydn Sennitt.
I've been living in Seoul now for the past year after moving here from Australia with my Korean wife and baby and I've found it interesting how much Koreans are trying to be like Americans.
..........yada yada yada..............
Since I've lived in Seoul, I've not really gone out of my way to meet westerners here. For one thing, many of them grumble incessantly (and needlessly) about Korea and make no attempt to learn the language or meet the locals. None of them want to contribute to the country, they just want to make a buck, pay back their debts at home, have sex with as many women as they can and add them to their ``trophy" collection, and then move onto the next country.
I've had the displeasure of hearing the most vile and despicable conversations at work, where North Americans talk about all the women they've slept with in Korea. They're sleazebags who don't even have the dignity to call their ex-lovers ``women." Instead, they call them ``sluts" and believe that Asian women are loose and ``dirty." These guys are highly educated, friendly and come from both the city and the country. They're black and white and some are even ``gyomin." They have an attitude of invade, rape, and pillage that makes me embarrassed to call myself a westerner, and being alone is preferable to being friends with people like that.
I'm not suggesting here that Americans are any worse than Australians, or worse than Koreans. Most of my close friends here in Seoul are American Christians who really love and respect Korean people, but I'm finding that such people are as easy to find as pure diamonds.
Fifty years ago, Americans were very much like Korea in its ``innocence," but since the sexual revolution of the 1960s the tables turned. Countries like my homeland are saturated with American culture, and in the last 20 years it hasn't borne very good fruit.
A tree is known by its fruit: If the apples from an apple tree are rotten, then the tree is diseased. Koreans need to take that to heart before buying into something they're largely ignorant of. |
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kiknkorea
Joined: 16 May 2008
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| Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:14 am Post subject: |
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| Sounds likes he's been around a lot of obnoxious westerners. |
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Smee
Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do
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asams
Joined: 17 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:24 am Post subject: |
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Nevermind. Had this long diatribe, in response to Smee's statement, about how he doesn't hate homosexuals because he himself was one. Then I realized you said "doesn't like" instead of "hate"
kinda ruined my argument. Not an attack on you, Smee |
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ESL Milk "Everyday
Joined: 12 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:30 am Post subject: |
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Doesn't sound like he hates homosexuals. If you read the blue part it said that he was, at one time, a homosexual. This makes me think that he was a homosexual and then became a born-again Christian. |
This explains absolutely everything.
I agree with the OP. Back in the west, if someone was having a conversation at work about how he thinks all women are sluts, or how he thinks all gay people are disgusting, or whatever... everyone would probably just take it in stride and then when he wasn't around, bash the guy.
But in Korea, when someone says bad things about women, some utter D#$kwad runs to the Korea Times with a story about 'some foreigners' and they print it.
As obnoxious the writer is, the real concern is how utterly reprehensible the Korea Times is. These guys need a brick through their window... and the brick needs to be made of anthrax. |
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Smee
Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do
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| Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:32 am Post subject: |
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I didn't see it, no worries.
Like people here are saying, there are folks who can deal with problems like adults. And then there are those who decide to do their growing up in the newspaper. |
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branchsnapper
Joined: 21 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:06 am Post subject: |
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| One thing is for sure. When you find an American Christian, it is just like finding a diamond. Or maybe even better than that. |
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wylies99
Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:08 am Post subject: |
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| ESL Milk "Everyday wrote: |
| asams wrote: |
Doesn't sound like he hates homosexuals. If you read the blue part it said that he was, at one time, a homosexual. This makes me think that he was a homosexual and then became a born-again Christian. |
This explains absolutely everything.
I agree with the OP. Back in the west, if someone was having a conversation at work about how he thinks all women are sluts, or how he thinks all gay people are disgusting, or whatever... everyone would probably just take it in stride and then when he wasn't around, bash the guy.
But in Korea, when someone says bad things about women, some utter D#$kwad runs to the Korea Times with a story about 'some foreigners' and they print it.
As obnoxious the writer is, the real concern is how utterly reprehensible the Korea Times is. These guys need a brick through their window... and the brick needs to be made of anthrax. |
Agreed. The Korea Times is pathetic.  The nuttier a letter writer is, the better the chances of being published.
Oh, and the letter writer ("Closet case?") has some MAJOR mental health issues to deal with before he can speak as any kind of authority on anything. Sounds like the "lights are on, but nobody's home." |
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wylies99
Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:19 am Post subject: |
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| Smee wrote: |
I didn't see it, no worries.
Like people here are saying, there are folks who can deal with problems like adults. And then there are those who decide to do their growing up in the newspaper. |
Is this his first letter to the Korea Times? Can we expect more of his "expert opinions" about foreign teachers?
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Smee
Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do
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wylies99
Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:33 am Post subject: |
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He must be a wimp, in person, who is afraid to say anything to his co-workers' faces, but then writes to the Korea Times about something he MAY have overheard ONCE, and makes it sound like EVERY foreign teacher in Korea acts like a sex maniac. What a weasel.
If he was REALLY a man, he would have said something to his co-workers face-to-face.  |
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coralreefer_1
Joined: 19 Jan 2009
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| Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:36 am Post subject: |
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"They have an attitude of invade, rape, and pillage that makes me embarrassed to call myself a westerner"
I find this very amusing and grossly ignorant on two fronts.
1. Those people who speak like that about Korean women are not raping them!!! This is what makes me sick about this argument about foreigners, as if Korean women are completely innocent as foreigners are raping, plundering them as the writer suggests. Seems to me the guy is just jealous because after being here for only a year he can easily see the life he could have, but cant because he came here with a wife and baby.
How can the writer put the sole blame on the foreigner as if Korean women share no responsibility of the reputation they get from such men? Simply stupid! Visit any foreigner club or bar in the vicinity of a US base and you can plainly see many many women there who are there in most cases to specifically meet foreigners. Those women are not dragged in there kicking and screaming, and they certainly are not dragged to the local love motel. Again...the writer is simply ignorant!
2. As far as I am concerned, as an Aussie, he is not a "westerner". He may share the same skin tone as the majority of "westerners" here in Korea, but considering where his country lies on the globe, I would not consider that the west from the Korean point of view. Perhaps he can take comfort in that, that he is not a "westerner" like the other western rapists and pillagers he describes.
Forget throwing a brick through the window of the Korea Times, someone should throw a water balloon filled with urine directly into this guys mouth! |
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wylies99
Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:39 am Post subject: |
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| I know some Aussies who would take offense at the drivel he wrote to the Korea Times. |
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D.D.
Joined: 29 May 2008
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| Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:50 am Post subject: |
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Christians like to make all things about the body as vial and beneath them. They like to deny sexuality as dirty and bad. Thats why they went around killing cultures that expressed dance and rythem. Christianity appeals to people that are trying to make logic better than feelings. The logical part of the brain tries to deny all things logical.
A real spiritual person does not deny the body but includes it as part of their existance. It through the body that we expereince things. Christians try to limit their experience with the filter of logic to distance themselves from their experience.
The people around him are just expressing his pent up desires. What one person denies another will usually express around them.
So Christians basically deny their natural rythems and judge those around them who express them.
Western medicine also stems from this type of thinking where you use drugs to try and bring the body to a safe and predictable level. The drugs kill the choas of nature and the person thinks they are better.
Methods that seek to unite logic and rythem are far superior to Christianity. Third world places adopt Christianity as a way to become more logical and move into cities and be at odds with nature.
Read the Book Ishmael if you want to see more on this subject.
Christianity is just a stage of growth and it becomes ugly because they think they are the apex of growth. Strange thing was Jesus was talking about something very different to what they have turned his teachings into.
He and his office workers are just two sides of the same coin. The trick is to become the whole coin and just not one side. |
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Xuanzang
Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang
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| Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:54 am Post subject: |
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| Don`t Aussies call this country, KFC? |
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