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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:47 pm    Post subject: Help me choose a bicycle Reply with quote

I'm looking to start bicycling around Seoul for exercise and to get around my neighborhood.

I figured a folding bicycle would be the most practical since I could always fold it up to take inside my apartment of onto a bus/subway if need be.

I don't know a thing about folding bicycles though. I see they come in different sizes. I've been doing some reading and read that the smaller wheels can make the ride more bumpy/uncomfortable.

Is there any advice anyone can give me in choosing a good folding bicycle?
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nosmallplans



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: noksapyeong

PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

depends on your budget. my understanding is that the go to folding bike would be dahon. but if you've got the budget and the desire you can upgrade to a bike friday, birdy, mouton (not really folding is it...) and more.

check out dahon's website, they have a bicycle picker.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

500,000w is a little too much for a bike I think. Around 250,000w is my price range.

I narrowed it down to:

http://www.gmarket.co.kr/challenge/neo_goods/goods.asp?goodscode=129011847

and

http://www.gmarket.co.kr//challenge/neo_goods/goods.asp?goodscode=155101918


I like the Benetton bike because of its lightweight.

However, the 2nd bike (Fila) looks to have some suspension on it. However, that bike is 4.3kg heavier than the Benetton bike.

So, is the smoother ride from the suspension on the Fila bike worth the extra 4.3kg?

Or do you think the effects from the suspension are nor beneficial enough to warrant the extra weight?
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moosehead



Joined: 05 May 2007

PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a benetton - was excellent and lighter than the others.

but none of them are as easy to fold as you might think - it's only when really necessary - like to move or put in a taxi (flat tire) that kind of thing
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nosmallplans



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: noksapyeong

PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it should also be noted that a suspension on a bicycle in that price range will be pretty ineffective. i think you're better off ignoring the presence of the suspension and focus on other features that youlike.
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lille



Joined: 27 Jan 2009
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you're just going to be bombing around your neighbourhood, there's no reason to buy a mountain bike (unless, that is, it's all you can find). the ones here are so laden with useless shocks and silly bits that they're ungainly and no fun to go anywhere on. try to find yourself a road bike if you're not going the folding route - they're much easier to toss over your shoulder and carry down the subway stairs.
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Bryan



Joined: 29 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an old bike for sale for 20,000 won if you want it. Front tire is flat right now. Comes with a new chain and bike lock.

IMO People always want new fancy stuff to exercise like a folding bike, treadmill, etc. Bike around first for a bit and if you're liking it, then spend the big bucks on a folding bike. I take mine into the apartment staircase.

All people really need for exercise are a pair of running shoes. For transport and exercise, a cheap bike works great.
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OneWayTraffic



Joined: 14 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't go folding unless you're absolutely sure that you will be folding it. I bought one and I've only ever folded it once. If I was doing it again I'd get a 700c hybrid.

I find that I can get around a radius of 5-7km faster than the bus or subway. It's a 5-10min walk to the bus stop/subway station then a 5min wait. By then I'm already 4km away or more.

I wouldn't worry about weight so much either. It's not a big deal except when you're carrying the bike, or if you're obsessed about shaving seconds off an uphill climb. In level terrain cruising weight makes practically no difference to the amount of energy you output.
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OneWayTraffic



Joined: 14 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

moosehead wrote:
I had a benetton - was excellent and lighter than the others.

but none of them are as easy to fold as you might think - it's only when really necessary - like to move or put in a taxi (flat tire) that kind of thing


The really good folders are about a grand or more. It's a good option for multi mode commuting where someone will ride both ends of a train or bus ride. For that reason they're popular in Britain.

There's a Bike Friday that folds in 2 seconds. Just slap the seatpost in the right way and bang instant fold. That kind of speed combined with reliability isn't cheap.
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TheMeerkatLover



Joined: 26 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd suggest a Kestrel Talon (SL model preferred). A great ride if you enjoy riding.

www.kestrelbicycles.com

Meerkat
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buymybook



Joined: 21 Feb 2005
Location: Telluride

PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheMeerkatLover wrote:
I'd suggest a Kestrel Talon (SL model preferred). A great ride if you enjoy riding.

www.kestrelbicycles.com

Meerkat


At 2.5 million Won what would be wrong with the Evoke? Or at 2.7 what would be wrong with the Talon Road? I'm sure you'd have to add about another 500.000 minimum to buy shoes/socks/helmet/gloves/shades/shorts/shirts/tubes/air pump/etc...

I can't get the time off for the S. Korean bike ride soon approaching otherwise I'd consider it. Also, it's too darn hot in the summer/cold in the winter and dangerous all year round to be spending that kind of money even though I'd like to.

3.5 million Won for only the bike as you suggested is a bit over my budget. Is that Korean made, must be. For that kind of money I'll wait and buy one in America and consider bringing it back.
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lille



Joined: 27 Jan 2009
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh man, that kestrel bike sure looks dorky. i'll keep my skinny osso anyday. http://www.m7bike.com/shop/data/goods/1238236309m0.gif
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kiknkorea



Joined: 16 May 2008

PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

4.3 kg is a lot of difference in a small bike. However, a little suspension does help when riding here.

I've never been on a folding bike. I know they're not made for speed, but do they ride OK? It seems the joints on them for folding would make it a little rickety. I guess like most things it depends on how much you spend.

Good luck with whatever you get. Lots of good days ahead for a ride. Very Happy
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TheMeerkatLover



Joined: 26 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

buymybook wrote:
TheMeerkatLover wrote:
I'd suggest a Kestrel Talon (SL model preferred). A great ride if you enjoy riding.

www.kestrelbicycles.com

Meerkat


At 2.5 million Won what would be wrong with the Evoke? Or at 2.7 what would be wrong with the Talon Road? I'm sure you'd have to add about another 500.000 minimum to buy shoes/socks/helmet/gloves/shades/shorts/shirts/tubes/air pump/etc...

I can't get the time off for the S. Korean bike ride soon approaching otherwise I'd consider it. Also, it's too darn hot in the summer/cold in the winter and dangerous all year round to be spending that kind of money even though I'd like to.

3.5 million Won for only the bike as you suggested is a bit over my budget. Is that Korean made, must be. For that kind of money I'll wait and buy one in America and consider bringing it back.



I own the Kestrel Talon SL Road model. It's not a traditional looking bike, but it feels awesome when you ride. Very light, stiff and responsive. @ 2.7M won, it's very cheap compared to what you are going to pay for the crap they sell in the shops in this country. Whatever the prices in the US mail order are, you simply double the price and that's what you pay for here.

Hope that helps.

Meerkat
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kiknkorea



Joined: 16 May 2008

PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheMeerkatLover wrote:
I own the Kestrel Talon SL Road model. It's not a traditional looking bike, but it feels awesome when you ride. Very light, stiff and responsive. @ 2.7M won, it's very cheap compared to what you are going to pay for the crap they sell in the shops in this country. Whatever the prices in the US mail order are, you simply double the price and that's what you pay for here.

Hope that helps.

Meerkat
Wow I would hope that one is stiff and responsive, but does it fold up easily? Laughing

That's a road model alright. I like road bikes too, but would need the right area here to want to ride one. I went with a hybrid instead to better handle the bumps and sidewalks around Korea.

You're right, at 2.7M won, it's a great deal for a high end model.
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