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kiknkorea

Joined: 16 May 2008
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:27 am Post subject: Crimes By Foreigners Rise |
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http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/NEWKHSITE/data/html_dir/2009/04/23/200904230054.asp
In parallel with the rise in the number of foreign residents in the country, the number of crimes committed by foreigners is increasing, exceeding 20,000 for the first time last year, according to statistics from the National Police Agency.
A total of 20,623 foreign nationals were arrested in 2008 on criminal charges such as murder, robbery and drug trafficking.
The number of crimes by foreigners, which stood at 6,144 in 2003, increased to 9,042 in 2005, 12,657 in 2006 and 14,524 in 2007.
Most noticeable was the steep increase in drug trafficking and fraud.
The number of arrested drug dealers, which remained at 73 in 2006, jumped to 231 in 2007 and 694 last year, according to the NPA figures.
The figure for drug crime suspects who were not arrested by the police after detection increased from 298 in 2007 to 928 last year.
The number of defrauders also rose from 834 in 2003 to 7,472 last year.
Top felonies such as murder and rape were no exception.
Foreign national murderers reached their highest number of 85 last year. The corresponding figures were 32 in 2003, 60 in 2004, 42 in 2005, 72 in 2006 and 54 in 2007.
The number of rapes committed by foreigners rose from 49 in 2003 to 62 in 2005 and 114 in 2008.
The increasing number of foreign nationals visiting or residing in the country largely contributed to the rise in the figures, according to officials.
A recent Justice Ministry survey showed that the number of foreigners permanently residing in Korea exceeded 1 million for the first time in August 2007.
"Despite the high foreign population, our administrative system is not so effective in controlling foreigners' crimes or stopping them from reentering the country after expulsion," said Park Wan-seok, a member of a civic group for foreign workers.
By Bae Hyun-jung
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blurgalurgalurga
Joined: 18 Oct 2007
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:47 am Post subject: |
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Seek and ye shall find. Same deal with ethnic minorities in the States and Canada; they get targeted more, and the bust records show them to be the guiltier lot. In some cases they are, but in many cases they're not any worse than the less targeted majority. They're just busted more often.
Xenophobia feeds itself and never starves.
Seek the dirty foreigner, and you shall find a few. Your prejudices shall be confirmed. |
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Adventurer

Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:50 am Post subject: Re: Crimes By Foreigners Rise |
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kiknkorea wrote: |
http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/NEWKHSITE/data/html_dir/2009/04/23/200904230054.asp
In parallel with the rise in the number of foreign residents in the country, the number of crimes committed by foreigners is increasing, exceeding 20,000 for the first time last year, according to statistics from the National Police Agency.
A total of 20,623 foreign nationals were arrested in 2008 on criminal charges such as murder, robbery and drug trafficking.
The number of crimes by foreigners, which stood at 6,144 in 2003, increased to 9,042 in 2005, 12,657 in 2006 and 14,524 in 2007.
Most noticeable was the steep increase in drug trafficking and fraud.
The number of arrested drug dealers, which remained at 73 in 2006, jumped to 231 in 2007 and 694 last year, according to the NPA figures.
The figure for drug crime suspects who were not arrested by the police after detection increased from 298 in 2007 to 928 last year.
The number of defrauders also rose from 834 in 2003 to 7,472 last year.
Top felonies such as murder and rape were no exception.
Foreign national murderers reached their highest number of 85 last year. The corresponding figures were 32 in 2003, 60 in 2004, 42 in 2005, 72 in 2006 and 54 in 2007.
The number of rapes committed by foreigners rose from 49 in 2003 to 62 in 2005 and 114 in 2008.
The increasing number of foreign nationals visiting or residing in the country largely contributed to the rise in the figures, according to officials.
A recent Justice Ministry survey showed that the number of foreigners permanently residing in Korea exceeded 1 million for the first time in August 2007.
"Despite the high foreign population, our administrative system is not so effective in controlling foreigners' crimes or stopping them from reentering the country after expulsion," said Park Wan-seok, a member of a civic group for foreign workers.
By Bae Hyun-jung
([email protected])
Gotta love the e-mail address! More regulations on the way anyone? |
According to the Korea Immigration Service, the number of non-Korean nationals exceeded one million for the first time in August 2007 and the number has been steadily increasing. Some 1.2 million foreigners are living in Korea and 60 percent of them are immigrant workers.
http://koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2009/04/117_43627.html
I would wager that the majority of immigrant workers are law-abiding.
It didn't really give a break-down of the number of crimes based on nationality. I mean Korea has Canadians, New Zealanders, Phillipinos,
Chinese people, Nigerians, Japanese people, Americans.
Also, what about those who are here illegaly? I can't imagine foreign teachers to be the type to change their names to come back and do drug deals, though it's possible with the visa loopholes, it appears. I can see that some dumb teachers could be involved in drugs like ecstasy, but in a recent bust there were 3 Westerners out of 38 people caught. Plenty of folks from other parts of Asia and Africa deal in drugs in various parts of Asia as well, and they are here in larger numbers. We don't know any percentages.....
Korea may need to do something sensible to deal with the law-breakers without using this as a reason to be xenophobic. |
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Robot_Teacher
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Location: Robotting Around the World
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:21 am Post subject: |
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Dang, those are large statistics for a tiny country and with astronomical increases. I'm betting only a tiny % of these are foreign English teachers. If they're were 694 English speaking drug dealers here, then at least 1 would be dealing weed on the streets of Itaewon, but I don't see any sort of activity like that going on and I was there walking on several Saturday nights not that I was looking. I just seen hostile acting soldiers. Any English teachers murdering people in Korea? Hear about any English teachers robbing the Koreans such as shoplifting and breaking into businesses late at night? How many of you are committing acts of fraud? Any of you raping Korean women as in snatching them off the street while walking at night and nailing them without their consent? Didn't think so.
I'm betting nearly all these statistics are foreigners from Asian countries and Russia. The nationalities should be pointed out in this article as it's vague and easily misconstrued as being Western due to many negative things like this being kept secret or just vague instead of the facts being openly spoken and reported. Reason I say Western is we're the most visible characters in Asia due to features like blonde hair and blue eyes while China man doesn't look too different from Korean man to stand out. No wonder why people are scared of me, aren't friendly, act suspicious, and distance themselves from me; they have misconceptions that I'm an evil one only invited for a knowledge exchange. Koreans don't know what kind of foreigners are creating the significantly increasing crime statistics as details are absent and kept vague in the name of saving face as to not offend the neighbors over in China and other countries. Korea is a small country and must be tactful with public relations in Asia as it does NOT want conflict. The word, "foreigner," can mean many things greatly differing. And yes, English teachers are indeed a minority class of foreigner in Korea despite the high profile image as most foreigners are actually from Asia and don't speak English.
It's said that 2% of people in Korea are foreign (1 million), but English teachers are so few such as 20 out of 45,000 are FT's in my county. That's like .044%. Slightly less 1/20th of 1%. Far less than 2%. Korea sure has many 3D blue collar workers and imported women while the tiniest minority of foreigner stands out the most. This means Korea has an estimated 20,000 English teachers if .044% of people in Korea are FT's. I heard the real number falls around 10,000.
I state my case, becuase the media lacks enough detail to give the Korean people enough info to understand what is going on in their country and the world. They are left clueless and guessing in fear and uncertainty about everything of a negative nature. |
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kiknkorea

Joined: 16 May 2008
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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Robot_Teacher wrote: |
I'm betting only a tiny % of these are foreign English teachers. |
Very true. I would like to see a breakdown of these statistics to know what nationalities are doing what crimes, along with what thier jobs are. I don't like to jump to conclusions, but I think many would be career criminals to begin with. |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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Of course the article says noting about rates.
If the economy totally collapsed and half the foreigners here left do you think you'd see headlines like 'Crimes by Foreigners Sharply Decrease'? |
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harlowethrombey

Joined: 17 Mar 2009 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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When are they just going to go ahead and print:
"Some people look different, they are scary. They must be evil."
and get it over with. |
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justin moffatt
Joined: 29 Aug 2006
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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The discrimination here knows no bounds. We seriously need to consider acting against the ant-foreigner sentiments in the media here. I for one, am growing tired of broad, sweeping generalizations, and the effect it has on our daily lives with Koreans. |
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Goku
Joined: 10 Dec 2008
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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justin moffatt wrote: |
The discrimination here knows no bounds. We seriously need to consider acting against the ant-foreigner sentiments in the media here. I for one, am growing tired of broad, sweeping generalizations, and the effect it has on our daily lives with Koreans. |
Yes, finally a pro-active statement.
I'm all for some sort of productive way to act against the negative bias of foreigner.
But what can we do? Stopping bad sentiment is impossible. |
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Robot_Teacher
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Location: Robotting Around the World
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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justin moffatt wrote: |
The discrimination here knows no bounds. We seriously need to consider acting against the ant-foreigner sentiments in the media here. I for one, am growing tired of broad, sweeping generalizations, and the effect it has on our daily lives with Koreans. |
Thank you. We could all bombard the English newspapers demanding more descriptive and accurate journalism reporting, but if the English papers are this bad, then the Korean ones must be severly lacking from our perspective of journalism. It's the Korean media that is most important while the English sources gives us an idea how reporting the news is done in Korea.
The media needs to be more descriptive and accurate in it's claims as well as citing it's claims; not just be vague like grouping foreigners as one group when foreigners represent highly diverse demographics that greatly differ. I'm quite very different than a small group of Indonesian (I think Indonesian) 3D dirty workers standing around outside a store on the corner and looking me down like they're ready to rob me. I actually felt like I was about to be attacked as I could read their body language and vocal expressions of talking jealousy and hate of me being higher paid, clean, well dressed, and packing bags full of expensive things with IPOD ear bud wire draped around my neck. I veared away from them and hailed a taxi. |
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Xuanzang

Joined: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Sadang
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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Robot_Teacher wrote: |
I'm betting nearly all these statistics are foreigners from Asian countries and Russia. The nationalities should be pointed out in this article as it's vague and easily misconstrued as being Western due to many negative things like this being kept secret or just vague instead of the facts being openly spoken and reported. Reason I say Western is we're the most visible characters in Asia due to features like blonde hair and blue eyes while China man doesn't look too different from Korean man to stand out. No wonder why people are scared of me, aren't friendly, act suspicious, and distance themselves from me; they have misconceptions that I'm an evil one only invited for a knowledge exchange. Koreans don't know what kind of foreigners are creating the significantly increasing crime statistics as details are absent and kept vague in the name of saving face as to not offend the neighbors over in China and other countries. Korea is a small country and must be tactful with public relations in Asia as it does NOT want conflict. The word, "foreigner," can mean many things greatly differing. And yes, English teachers are indeed a minority class of foreigner in Korea despite the high profile image as most foreigners are actually from Asia and don't speak English.
I state my case, becuase the media lacks enough detail to give the Korean people enough info to understand what is going on in their country and the world. They are left clueless and guessing in fear and uncertainty about everything of a negative nature. |
Sparkling language there Roboto. |
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Xuanzang

Joined: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Sadang
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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Robot_Teacher wrote: |
I'm betting nearly all these statistics are foreigners from Asian countries and Russia. The nationalities should be pointed out in this article as it's vague and easily misconstrued as being Western due to many negative things like this being kept secret or just vague instead of the facts being openly spoken and reported. Reason I say Western is we're the most visible characters in Asia due to features like blonde hair and blue eyes while China man doesn't look too different from Korean man to stand out. No wonder why people are scared of me, aren't friendly, act suspicious, and distance themselves from me; they have misconceptions that I'm an evil one only invited for a knowledge exchange. Koreans don't know what kind of foreigners are creating the significantly increasing crime statistics as details are absent and kept vague in the name of saving face as to not offend the neighbors over in China and other countries. Korea is a small country and must be tactful with public relations in Asia as it does NOT want conflict. The word, "foreigner," can mean many things greatly differing. And yes, English teachers are indeed a minority class of foreigner in Korea despite the high profile image as most foreigners are actually from Asia and don't speak English.
I state my case, becuase the media lacks enough detail to give the Korean people enough info to understand what is going on in their country and the world. They are left clueless and guessing in fear and uncertainty about everything of a negative nature. |
Sparkling language there Roboto. |
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kiknkorea

Joined: 16 May 2008
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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Goku wrote: |
I'm all for some sort of productive way to act against the negative bias of foreigner.
But what can we do? Stopping bad sentiment is impossible. |
Just keep walking the walk and presenting ourselves in a respectable manner.
Have to say I LOVE the new avatar Goku. So true!  |
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Robot_Teacher
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Location: Robotting Around the World
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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Xuanzang wrote: |
Robot_Teacher wrote: |
I'm betting nearly all these statistics are foreigners from Asian countries and Russia. The nationalities should be pointed out in this article as it's vague and easily misconstrued as being Western due to many negative things like this being kept secret or just vague instead of the facts being openly spoken and reported. Reason I say Western is we're the most visible characters in Asia due to features like blonde hair and blue eyes while China man doesn't look too different from Korean man to stand out. No wonder why people are scared of me, aren't friendly, act suspicious, and distance themselves from me; they have misconceptions that I'm an evil one only invited for a knowledge exchange. Koreans don't know what kind of foreigners are creating the significantly increasing crime statistics as details are absent and kept vague in the name of saving face as to not offend the neighbors over in China and other countries. Korea is a small country and must be tactful with public relations in Asia as it does NOT want conflict. The word, "foreigner," can mean many things greatly differing. And yes, English teachers are indeed a minority class of foreigner in Korea despite the high profile image as most foreigners are actually from Asia and don't speak English.
I state my case, becuase the media lacks enough detail to give the Korean people enough info to understand what is going on in their country and the world. They are left clueless and guessing in fear and uncertainty about everything of a negative nature. |
Sparkling language there Roboto. |
Yes indeed. Thank you for the comment. I too sparkle due to being shiny and high tech. Can't say the local journalism is professional nor sparkling. I believe I could write and edit the English papers much better than the people they hired to do those jobs. I know there are problems with western journalism too, the AP, such as hiding facts or skewing facts to protect rich people's interests or political interests, but we do get more detailed in our statistics and facts as well as citing the data sources.
By the way my favorite song is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBtZk13miAE |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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justin moffatt wrote: |
The discrimination here knows no bounds. We seriously need to consider acting against the ant-foreigner sentiments in the media here. I for one, am growing tired of broad, sweeping generalizations, and the effect it has on our daily lives with Koreans. |
"acting"? Any thoughts on exactly how? |
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