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Social security number, ps wants it!!!
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muffintop



Joined: 29 Dec 2008
Location: SK

PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:46 pm    Post subject: Social security number, ps wants it!!! Reply with quote

Has anyone's public school asked to see your social security card or asked for the number recently? School wants mine.
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's perfectly normal - some countries have tax treaties with the ROK and some don't. Either way, 'big bro.' is always watching... and enquiring minds (yes, governments have minds Rolling Eyes) want to know.
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dimnd



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Western USA

PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:57 pm    Post subject: Social security.. Reply with quote

I understand..but has anyone else had to show theirs is the question?
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moosehead



Joined: 05 May 2007

PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 4:55 am    Post subject: Re: Social security number, ps wants it!!! Reply with quote

muffintop wrote:
Has anyone's public school asked to see your social security card or asked for the number recently? School wants mine.



my PS asked once - I said no - they didn't ask again.

just explain it's not something you are supposed to give to a foreign country, that it's private and personal.
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ChinaBoy



Joined: 17 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Give them a phony number.
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muffintop



Joined: 29 Dec 2008
Location: SK

PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 2:36 pm    Post subject: social Reply with quote

Thanks, Moosehead and other posters.
I will let the days go by and if they persist say exactly that. It is my number for my country only and personal and private. ARC copy or passport copy is all that they are entitled to. Heck..they got everything else on us...diplomas, CRC's, enough to open a vault...
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lifeinkorea



Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China

PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine is 8675309
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChinaBoy wrote:
Give them a phony number.

Wink
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saw6436



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon, ROK

PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is ABSOLUTELY no reason for your PS (or any other SK agency) to need your SSN. Just say no.
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Forward Observer



Joined: 13 Jan 2009
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lifeinkorea wrote:
Mine is 8675309


You don't know me but you make me so happy Very Happy
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yeremy



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Your school has no need of your SSN Reply with quote

It's a very odd request from a Korean (public) school, which is not normal nor necessary. All they need to know or see is your passport which will prove your nationality for tax purposes. A second reason is that your SSN could easily be stolen from your school and used for no good just by someone calling and asking for it. Once a former school gave someone my home phone number just because they asked for it. There is no real sense of privacy or information security, especially in a public school, so I suggest that you politely refuse. It is not a normal nor acceptable request, even in Korea.

And what you should ask of your school is a summary, like a W2, of your yearly earnings for tax purposes.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, at first I thought this was the ARC number. A public school wants a social security number? Why? It must be about taxes.
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Tobias



Joined: 02 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't give it. Who knows what they'll do with it. I've seen school workers walk away and leave people's passports sitting on copy machines like it's no big deal.

Tell 'em NO.
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Ut videam



Joined: 07 Dec 2007
Location: Pocheon-si, Gyeonggi-do

PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

saw6436 wrote:
There is ABSOLUTELY no reason for your PS (or any other SK agency) to need your SSN. Just say no.

The part in bold is not true.

American citizens, when applying at the Korean National Pension Service for a lump-sum refund of pension contributions upon leaving Korea, are asked to provide their Social Security Numbers.

This is because the US and Korea have a reciprocal Social Security Agreement. Such reporting is required under the terms of the agreement. If you don't give your SSN, you don't get your pension refund.
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Rory_Calhoun27



Joined: 14 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On a related issue, what are you SUPPOSED to give the school to show your exemption from taxes?

It's like the keystons cops with my elementary school- 10 months in, I'm told by my SECOND coteacher to show a "proof of residency" or something similar to avoid taxes..... of course, they havent been paying them for these 10 months, but I was told last summer all fees were being deducted by my FIRST coteacher.

Mind you, the first one is also the one who repeatedly said we were not a team, said "*beep* you" and gave me the finger whenever she wanted, and gepik refused to do anything about it, including the possibility of a transfer. mercifully, she finally had to change schools, and I've had decent coteachers since then....

Logic tells me a passport SHOULD be enough for this matter, but knowing Korea, logic is sometimes more a liability than asset. Anyone have ANY idea what the proof they want is? My current coteacher doesn't know what the office wants, nor do they, I'm starting to think.
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