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Daegu3523
Joined: 23 Oct 2008
Location: Daegu, Korea
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 Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:08 pm Post subject: World Baseball Classic-- Explain something to me |
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Korea loses to San Diego Padres, a so-so team in the USA at best. After I heard this I figured the best of Korea = a so-so team in the U.S.
But then team USA, from my understanding the countries' best players, lose badly to Puerto Rico, a territory of the U.S.
WTF?! I don't really follow baseball, but can you guys help me figure this one out? People at work are always talking about it and I don't know what to say. |
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Underwaterbob
Joined: 08 Jan 2005
Location: In Cognito
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| Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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| It's common enough for an all-stars team to lose to a team with weaker players, but better teamwork. |
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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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The Puerto Rico pitcher did a fine job and the US one did not.
There are many good players on both teams.
It was just one game. In baseball a last place team will beat a first place team on occasion, probably more often than you'd see in basketball or some other sports. |
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ForceOne
Joined: 25 Aug 2005
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| Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:12 am Post subject: |
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The game vs the Padres was just an exhibition game. Obviously the game wouldn't have near the intensity of a W.B.C. game, and it was likely played just to keep the Koreans from getting rusty. While I didn't see it, I would assume that the Koreans didn't use their best pitchers or fielders (maybe for a couple of at-bats).
The Americans and other teams that have a lot of M.LB.'ers are at a disadvantage as they have just started playing again while a good majority of the other nations have been playing Winter Ball. Just look at how many injuries the U.S. had.
While Team Canada didn't play well enough to advance, it would have been nice to see Rich Harden, Ryan Dempster, Erik Bedard, Jeff Francis and Adam Lowen in the pitching rotation. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap
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| Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:50 am Post subject: |
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| Underwaterbob wrote: |
| It's common enough for an all-stars team to lose to a team with weaker players, but better teamwork. |
In what way are Korea & Japan not all-star teams too? Their players are drawn from throughout their respective professional leagues.
They do however display better teamwork than the US. I wonder why that is. Its less about ego? Their attention to the fundamentals & the niceties of "small ball" are effective too.
ForceOne: Koreans & Japanese play winter ball? News to me. By that reasoning, where are the Venezuelans, Dominicans, & Cubans, teams all loaded with raw talent?
Go Korea! |
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T-dot
Joined: 16 May 2004
Location: bundang
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| Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:30 am Post subject: |
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WBC is a joke and always will be.
The format is shit and so are half the players. |
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FMPJ
Joined: 03 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:45 am Post subject: |
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| In baseball, any team can beat any other on any given day. The best teams may win 100 out of 162 in the major leagues. |
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SMKOREA
Joined: 29 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:48 am Post subject: |
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| T-dot wrote: |
WBC is a joke and always will be.
The format is shit and so are half the players. |
"Always"
Right, this being the 2nd classic. 
Are you from the Dominican or something? Calm down.
Most of the players in the tourney are pro's, and take it very seriously. |
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T-dot
Joined: 16 May 2004
Location: bundang
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| Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:44 am Post subject: |
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| SMKOREA wrote: |
| T-dot wrote: |
WBC is a joke and always will be.
The format is shit and so are half the players. |
"Always"
Right, this being the 2nd classic.
Are you from the Dominican or something? Calm down.
Most of the players in the tourney are pro's, and take it very seriously. |
"will be" = continuing into the future. |
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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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| FMPJ wrote: |
| In baseball, any team can beat any other on any given day. |
True because pitching is so important. |
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DrOctagon
Joined: 11 Jun 2008
Location: Chicago
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| Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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| schwa wrote: |
| Underwaterbob wrote: |
| It's common enough for an all-stars team to lose to a team with weaker players, but better teamwork. |
They do however display better teamwork than the US. I wonder why that is. Its less about ego? Their attention to the fundamentals & the niceties of "small ball" are effective too.
Go Korea! |
Can you please explain to me how Korea displays better teamwork? People just seem to throw this statement out of left field without giving any evidence.
In addition, Korea doesn't really play small ball. They hit many homeruns. I believe they've hit more homeruns than any other team in the WBC.
Please stop saying things that you know nothing about. |
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catman
Joined: 18 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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| T-dot wrote: |
WBC is a joke and always will be.
The format is shit and so are half the players. |
Once you get by the first round most the players are good. |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA
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| Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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Major league baseball in the U.S. and Canada has been hurt by the steroid/human growth hormone/juiced-up balls, bats, greedy agents, misguided unions, lousy Commisioners, designated hitters - and everything else that has detracted from the basic art of the game.
Japan and Korea showed how the game used to be played. It used to be the "national pastime" in the U.S., inspiring young and old alike. In Korea, they're just becoming captivated by the game, and it was practically a national holiday for them to watch their team play in the final ... |
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shifter2009
Joined: 03 Sep 2006
Location: wisconsin
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| Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:10 am Post subject: |
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| Rteacher wrote: |
Major league baseball in the U.S. and Canada has been hurt by the steroid/human growth hormone/juiced-up balls, bats, greedy agents, misguided unions, lousy Commisioners, designated hitters - and everything else that has detracted from the basic art of the game.
Japan and Korea showed how the game used to be played. It used to be the "national pastime" in the U.S., inspiring young and old alike. In Korea, they're just becoming captivated by the game, and it was practically a national holiday for them to watch their team play in the final ... |
Its interesting, when I just home a bit ago watching PTI, Around the Horn, Sweaty Sports Journalist Shout Controversial Opinions for Ratings, ect. They all basically agreed that the thing was stupid and should be called off. Worried about player safety ect. It's kinda nice to see people so into it here, that game today sold me on it. |
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Guri Guy
Joined: 07 Sep 2003
Location: Bamboo Island
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| Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:23 am Post subject: |
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| It used to be the "national pastime" in the U.S., inspiring young and old alike. In Korea, they're just becoming captivated by the game, and it was practically a national holiday for them to watch their team play in the final ... |
South Koreans aren't so much baseball fans as they are South Korea fans. Just a means to an end really. |
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