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A matter of pride
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What would you do?
Show her the paper
14%
 14%  [ 7 ]
Show her the paper and explain that you're offended
21%
 21%  [ 10 ]
Don't show her the paper
12%
 12%  [ 6 ]
Show her the paper and then refuse to teach her kid
51%
 51%  [ 24 ]
Total Votes : 47

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Tiberious aka Sparkles



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 1:32 am    Post subject: A matter of pride Reply with quote

I have a dilemma and would like some input from my fellow expats. Yesterday I had an interview to teach a pretty bright 5th grader once a week. I might also teach his 3rd-grade sister in the future, and the mother said she could recommend me to other mothers. I don't work much in the afternoon, so this might prove lucrative.

Today, the wife got a text message from the kid's mother asking her to prove that we're married. I protested but begrudgingly allowed my wife to send an SMS of our marriage license. The mother texted back that she couldn't read it clearly and asked that I bring it for the first class early next week.

The mother said her husband has heard a lot of bad news regarding English teachers, and in his mind (hers, likely) proof that we're married is proof, somehow, that I'm not a miscreant.

I told the wife that on principle I'm tempted to refuse, but she complained that if I don't do it the mother will think we're liars. To that I suggested I bring the marriage paper, show it to the mother, and then tell her that as a matter of pride I won't be teaching her son. I'm seriously considering it.

What would you do?
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Expect questions like this if you want to teach children one-on-one.
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Tiberious aka Sparkles



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wylies99 wrote:
Expect questions like this if you want to teach children one-on-one.


That's the thing; I taught a lot of privates in the past, and never was I asked to show anything.

I should also add that my wife was with me during the interview.
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crossmr



Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 and 4.. show her the paper, tell her you're offended and refuse to teach her kid.
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okokok



Joined: 27 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, definitely show her the proof and then refuse to teach.

Trust me.... it may look lucrative now, but this woman will only cause you headache after headache and it won't be worth it.
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Kurtz



Joined: 05 Jan 2007
Location: ples bilong me

PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How much $$ you getting? If it's very lucrative, or if you're living on a diet of gimbap and instant noodles, and are often seen on subway stations with your hooded jacket over your head begging for change, I'd take the job.

If not, give the nice lady a look at your certificate then tell her you're not for sale.
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moosehead



Joined: 05 May 2007

PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

walk away, please, for your own self-respect, and explain to your wife she needs to understand it just not the way things are done in our culture; dealing with people who are so suspicious and cynical is only going to bring you grief, one way or another.
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BS.Dos.



Joined: 29 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't have a problem with it. For whatever reason, they've got old school values and obviously attach great significance to the constitution of marriage. If by producing your marriage certificate results in you growing in their estimation, then it may result in other 'lucrative' doors being opened for you. Placate them with the marriage certificate and whatever other conciliatory gestures it takes to win them over, then take their money off them and smile all the way to the bank.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote:
wylies99 wrote:
Expect questions like this if you want to teach children one-on-one.


That's the thing; I taught a lot of privates in the past, and never was I asked to show anything.

I should also add that my wife was with me during the interview.


Then ask to see HER proof of marriage. Wink
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Money is never everything. Politely show her your marriage license and then walk away. There will be other opportunities.
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Michael_75



Joined: 13 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wylies99 wrote:
Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote:
wylies99 wrote:
Expect questions like this if you want to teach children one-on-one.


That's the thing; I taught a lot of privates in the past, and never was I asked to show anything.

I should also add that my wife was with me during the interview.


Then ask to see HER proof of marriage. Wink


Go one step further - ask for a Criminal Record Check and health certificate for each memeber of the family.

In all seriousness though I would do as the other posters suggested. Show it her thn refuse to teach her kids. If the other mother's really want you to teach their kids they can get in touch themselves.
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep

PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wylies99 wrote:
Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote:
wylies99 wrote:
Expect questions like this if you want to teach children one-on-one.

That's the thing; I taught a lot of privates in the past, and never was I asked to show anything.

I should also add that my wife was with me during the interview.


Then ask to see HER proof of marriage. Wink

Yeah, something like this. But I would demand -- not ask -- to see it, in my rudest, most arrogant lord-of-the-realm ajosshi persona, not letting on for a moment that I was just joking. She'd freak, and just before she pees herself, I'd say "Just kidding Wink"

BS.Dos. wrote:
Placate them with the marriage certificate and whatever other conciliatory gestures it takes to win them over, then take their money off them and smile all the way to the bank.

Right, then I'd do this. But be sure to up the rate -- whatever you've previously agreed on, up it. God commands you ... well okay, Guru commands you to gouge the daylights out of this stupid ajumma. This way, the customer gets what they want, your wife gets what she wants, and you get more than you had expected.
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Oreovictim



Joined: 23 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe the mom is worried about immigration issues. From what I hear, the parents can get fined, too, if you're tutoring their kid on the wrong visa. If she wants to see a marriage cert. because she's really religious and wants to make sure you're not "living in sin", then I'd refuse.
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep

PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oreovictim wrote:
If she wants to see a marriage cert. because she's really religious and wants to make sure you're not "living in sin", then I'd refuse.

Really, you'd refuse for that reason? See, I'd actually respect the woman if those were her motives. My problem is with the sheer effrontery of her demands.


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Scott in Incheon



Joined: 30 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Better is to ask for proof that she can pay...ask to see her bankbook and then ask what her husband's salary is...you can't be too careful.

Exchange documents...and then refuse to teach her kids. You have been here too long for this kind of thing.
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