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SharkDiver
Joined: 08 Nov 2008
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 Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:50 pm Post subject: Keeping Degree |
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| Does anyone know if according to GEPIK contracts the school is allowed to hold on to your degree(s) and other certificates such as TESOL? |
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Straphanger
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Chilgok, Korea
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| Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:15 pm Post subject: Re: Keeping Degree |
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| Does anyone know if according to GEPIK contracts the school is allowed to hold on to your degree(s) and other certificates such as TESOL? |
My University specifically told me that I can have all the copies of my degree I want, but that's not the method they use to verify that a degree has been conferred. Clearly nobody's told immigration that an accredited university does not consider the paper degree to be anything more than a piece of paper, and that nothing but a transcript, sealed by the registrar, would be proof that a degree has ever been conferred.
So to answer, I submitted an apostilled photocopy. The original is in my apartment with my teaching certificate and my TEFL cert. |
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Skippy
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon
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| Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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What reasons has the school given you for holding onto the papers? Also how long?
The only reasons I can think public school and even some hagwon hold on to paper work is ....
- Further visa paperwork like registering for ARC Card.
- Degree verification they like to think that Immigration, Education, Health , Defence and the Bureau of General Snoopiness all need to see you papers. Sometimes they do and other times they really just do not.
- School bureaucracies have this need to have all kinds of papers and reports just in case. So they are holding on to the papers till they think they need it. Which could be next week or never. This is not really mean in a sense it is just a knee jerk reaction to needs. Careful papers have been lost forever due to filling this requirement.
- Plain power or Malice. Some school use it as a way to control and prevent the teacher from running amok.
Good luck in getting them back. |
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LostinKSpace
Joined: 17 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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Just tell them that you need your documents back, you do not need a reason, they belong to you, and if the school needs them at a later date then they can ask.
The school is probably holding on to them because they are frightened that you leave, have lost them, to make their own life easier i.e. not having to ask for them or just because they want to.
Smile nod, and go to the office and ask for them, if they ask why just say because they belong to me and then ask for them, if they refuse tell them to take photocopies and get your originals. I went through this with my first gig in Korea and some of my certs came back with coffee stains, to say I wasn't best pleased is an understatement. |
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SharkDiver
Joined: 08 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks for all the comments. I got everything back.....I had already simply said they were mine and I wanted them. They finally gave in. I also contacted GEPIK HQ and they said the school legally can't hold them. If need be the GEPIK co-ordinator can say something on your behalf if the school won't return them. Luckily it didn't go that far as that could cause some bad relations. |
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