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madoka
Joined: 27 Mar 2008
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 Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:58 pm Post subject: Japan pays immigrants to leave and never return |
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| Alyssa wrote: |
The people in Japan are so wonderful, full of so much goodness and a dignity that is hard to describe. I have too much free time, I suppose that is why I like reading about the troubles people have on daves, it is kind of fun as I go to a quiet coffee shop and type in silence while the beautiful sound of the Japanese language is heard so softly around me. I am so glad I left korea, that was the best decision I ever made.
The Japanese are so interesting, I want to stay here forever! And my husband loves it as well!~ |
Oopsie! I hope the Japanese can come up with a few bucks to make Alyssa leave. 
http://finance.yahoo.com/career-work/article/106964/Japan-Pays-Foreign-Workers-to-Go-Home
Just some excerpts:
Rita Yamaoka, a mother of three who immigrated from Brazil, recently lost her factory job here. Now, Japan has made her an offer she might not be able to refuse.
The government will pay thousands of dollars to fly Mrs. Yamaoka; her husband, who is a Brazilian citizen of Japanese descent; and their family back to Brazil. But in exchange, Mrs. Yamaoka and her husband must agree never to seek to work in Japan again.
�It�s a disgrace. It�s cold-hearted,� said Hidenori Sakanaka, director of the Japan Immigration Policy Institute, an independent research organization.
Mr. Kawasaki led the ruling party task force that devised the repatriation plan, part of a wider emergency strategy to combat rising unemployment.
But Mr. Kawasaki said the economic slump was a good opportunity to overhaul Japan�s immigration policy as a whole.
�We should stop letting unskilled laborers into Japan. We should make sure that even the three-K jobs (kitsui, kitanai, kiken � hard, dirty and dangerous) are paid well, and that they are filled by Japanese,� he said. �I do not think that Japan should ever become a multiethnic society.�
He said the United States had been �a failure on the immigration front,� and cited extreme income inequalities between rich Americans and poor immigrants.
�They put up with us as long as they needed the labor,� said Wellington Shibuya, who came six years ago and lost his job at a stove factory in October. �But now that the economy is bad, they throw us a bit of cash and say goodbye.�
�We worked hard; we tried to fit in. Yet they�re so quick to kick us out,� he said. �I�m happy to leave a country like this.� |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 1:08 am Post subject: |
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| Alyssa doesn't appear to be an immigrant so none of the stuff the Brazilians are facing applies to her. |
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bundangbabo
Joined: 01 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:35 am Post subject: |
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The grant is only applicable to the South American Japanese who hail from Brazil and Peru.
It's funny - they are Japanese when there was a labour shortage in 1990 and were invited over to do the crappy jobs native born Japanese would not do.
Now they are foreigners and part of a 'multi-ethnic' wave threatening to engulf Japan - all 365,000 of them! 
Good article right here!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7097929.stm |
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travel zen
Joined: 22 Feb 2005
Location: Good old Toronto, Canada
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| Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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It's so sad.
Will places like Japan and Germany, which also has 'immigrant problems' ever change? Why do they think they are so special? |
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yoja
Joined: 30 May 2008
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| Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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I bet they're just embarrassed that they can't pronounce "Wellington Shibuya." Not sure if I can pronounce it right, either.  |
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TECO
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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The Japanese would rather see robots working jobs than invite foreigners into Japan. They don't like immigrants and are don't believe in "Multiculturalism".
Look at Canada, the evidence shows that multiculturalism is a disaster; a huge failure, and has caused many problems for the country.
Yet, on the other hand, with the rapid demographic changes occurring in Japan, experts are saying that Japan needs more immigrants. Skilled immigrants. I doubt that will happen so, though.
Of all countries, does anyone think that America has been more successful in integrating newcomers?
I hear France, U.K. and Germany are having similar problems integrating new immigrants as Canada.
Australia, on the other hand, seem to know exactly who they are and haven't kicked open the doors to the country to just anyone who wants to move there. I'm not a big fan of Australia or Australians, but I can appreciate how they are fighting to keep what they have and not become the hotel of the world like Canada has become.
at any rate, I can kind of see where the Japanese are coming from on this and that immigrants bring a lot of grief for them. |
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aboxofchocolates
Joined: 21 Mar 2008
Location: on your mind
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| Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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| TECO wrote: |
Look at Canada, the evidence shows that multiculturalism is a disaster; a huge failure, and has caused many problems for the country.
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Are you refering to european immigrants landing in the 1600's? They did make quite a mess of things. |
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drdst122
Joined: 12 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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| hmmm |
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Draz
Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam
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| Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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| travel zen wrote: |
It's so sad.
Will places like Japan and Germany, which also has 'immigrant problems' ever change? Why do they think they are so special? |
Maybe because people from other countries routinely cream themselves over how cool those places are? |
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travel zen
Joined: 22 Feb 2005
Location: Good old Toronto, Canada
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| Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 7:55 am Post subject: |
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Look at Canada, the evidence shows that multiculturalism is a disaster; a huge failure, and has caused many problems for the country.
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Canada is a good model of how people can work together without Neo-Nazis like Germany/Eastern Europe, or with stushie attitudes like France. Canada has done well, only maybe they opened the door a little too wide for too long, IMO.
I can tell you that many immigrants turn right around when they see countries like Japan, Germany and Canada. Lifestyles are very different and many don't like the fast pace rush for money and status that these countries seem to demand.
Would you prefer the easy life of Paradise in the Caribean, or the rush and drone-like slave-a-tude of Canada and the conformity and non-existance of Japan? (I exagerate only a little)  |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 8:02 am Post subject: |
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| Japan has every right to restrict or expand immigration for whatever reason they choose. If they want to be a little poorer and more homogeneous, that's their decision. The jury is still out on the vitality of very diverse societies. |
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travel zen
Joined: 22 Feb 2005
Location: Good old Toronto, Canada
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| Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 8:11 am Post subject: |
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I don't mean to talk too much, but..
Isn't this Earth just one big country? It seems INSANE to me that people or governments can think of building walls and keeping people out of their little corner (North Korea excluded).
In this age? It's impossible. That country will be sanctioned, petitioned and generally run over in the future. Immigration is, especially now, a given for all countries.
I'll shush up now.  |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 8:22 am Post subject: |
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| travel zen wrote: |
I don't mean to talk too much, but..
Isn't this Earth just one big country? | |
No, it isn't. Even in the event that hippies want it to be, it isn't.
http://www.city-journal.org/2009/19_2_pim-fortuyn.html
Not every culture will share your live and let live attitude. The state must protect citizens from foreigners who wish the domestic population ill. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 8:24 am Post subject: |
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| travel zen wrote: |
Immigration is, especially now, a given for all countries.
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We're entering into a period of dramatically lessened migration. The economic boom is over.
By the by, Spain (with a socialist governemnt) is also paying immigrants to leave. |
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travel zen
Joined: 22 Feb 2005
Location: Good old Toronto, Canada
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| Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:22 am Post subject: |
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The British National Party (BNP), which has a whites-only membership policy and has flatly denied the Holocaust, won more than 5 percent of the vote in London�s last mayoral election. Then there�s Vlaams Belang (Flemish Interest), formerly Vlaams Bloc, whose leaders have a regrettable tendency to be caught on film singing Nazi songs and buying Nazi books. In 2007, it won five out of 40 seats in the Belgian Senate.
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Interesting article, but this is the idiocy that comes from closed borders and closed minds.
If Europe wants another genocidal war, then I guess its past due |
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