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[pkang0202]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8180806.stm

[asmith]

[bacasper]

Good idea! Now I am going to sue my employment agency for not giving me an education!

[RJjr]

I think a lot of the problem is that it's an employer's market these days. Back when I graduated, I got a job because the company who hired me got my resume from the university. Back then, in 1997, the economy was an employee's market and employers had to pound the pavement to find workers. Fast forward to 2009. Now, companies are getting bombarded with people needing jobs since there aren't enough to go around. These days, it's not uncommon to read about dozens of applicants showing up at one business over one job. If the girl in the article expects to get a job, she's going to have to expect to knock on some doors and show some initiative.

I feel like I've lived a charmed life to have had the opportunity to have worked over a decade in a great economy where a person could work as many hours as they wanted. I pity people graduating college these days. It's a sad situation.

Another problem with being a college graduate these days is that there are so many. Back in the days of yore, having a college diploma meant something. Nowadays, everybody and their pet dog has one. But in some ways, education levels are starting to reflect the economy somewhat. Years ago, there was a big middle class and most people had a middle of the road education level (high school diploma, no college). Now, the economic middle class has shrank. Likewise, it seems like most people today are either a high school dropout or a college graduate.

Off topic - the other day I went to the University of Tennessee to get transcripts since I've been thinking about going back to Asia after the crops are harvested. Transcripts have always been free, but when I showed up the other day to get some, there were two girls working there and the price per transcript was $7.50. It's sad that my tax dollars can't buy one sheet of paper, but if they're going to charge, I don't see why it isn't $0.50 or something reasonable. As I was leaving, I could see the construction on the luxury boxes on the west sideline at Neyland Stadium, which costs untelling how many millions of dollars. When a college spends millions of dollars on stadium luxury boxes and charges $7.50 per transcript, you know it's nothing more than a minor league sports program masquerading as an academic institution.

[Carla]

[E_athlete]

wow this is spectacular. It would be even more astonishing if she wins this litigation.

[GwangjuParents]

The question is:

Did the school explicitly promise and define exactly what they would do to assist her in obtaining a job?

If the school didn't live up to their own words, then they should be held responsible.


But I suspect the school's "promises" were vague and gray, and there will be a lot of wiggle room for them to get out of it.

Thing to remember is that these schools are "businesses". And they need constant new "customers" (aka, students) in order to stay in business... to keep their jobs... to keep their funding, etc.

[Julius]

A bigger problem is that education has become a profit industry whereby the colleges offer excess courses in things like "fashion design" or "acting" just because they're popular.
The number of kids following these dreams bears no relation to the tiny number of jobs actually available in these fields however. A whole lot of basically useless courses out there... and subsequently unemployed young adults.

[mises]

I assume the judge will issue a summary judgement and be done with it. To not do so would change the game too much.

Monroe college is something of a scam. An instate college would have cost her 1/10th or so as much and provided a better education. Private colleges had better keep their heads up as this is likely the first among a flood.

But even good schools are scams now. I know a man who did an mba at Rice University in Texas. It cost 90k (the PT program for "executives"). He earned no financial benefit what so ever. His employer paid 20% but laid him off a year after his grad and he is now asking me about esl. I'm sure he is watching this closely.

Here's another terrible story:

[okokokok]

I wanna sue my high school too.

[bucheon bum]

[mises]

[GwangjuParents]

Trades is no guarantee either.

If the economy is hot, sure, trades are hot. But the economy goes into the crapper and construction projects grind to a halt, you've got a lot of unemployed trades people out there.

I don't think it's a question of training people for certain fields, I think it's more of a question of there are just too many people looking for work in a down economy.

Part of the problem is that education has become such industry unto itself, and it pumps out the message that unless you get a BA or BS then you're a loser. I remember back in high school this message was really pushed on us.

[mises]

[ontheway]

This woman should have never gone to college. She should have worked at McDonald's during those years and lived at home. She could have saved $40k instead of going in debt by $120k. She would be at least $160k ahead. She can never recover from this mistake.

All university and college grants and loan programs by the govt should be abolished. These programs are designed to enrich special interests (low quality profs who would otherwise have to work, college bureaucrats and officials, college sports programs, coaches, players, sponsors and vendors.) They lower the overall quality of education in America and help make the victims, the taxpayers and the unqualified students, poorer throughout their lives.


She should sue the US government and all the boneheads who create these terrible programs to pay for college for idiots.

She should sue God for not giving her enough brains to see through the education scam.