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Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 10:00 pm    Post subject: Proof reading Academic papers Reply with quote

Might be a strange request, but how does one go around finding people who can proof read.

The paper is a mix of mathematics and language, and pretty high profile.

So I need people who are familiar with academic work.
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Spongebob Squarepants



Joined: 19 Oct 2007
Location: You wanna see my caring face?, ROK

PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 11:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Proof reading Academic papers Reply with quote

Juregen wrote:
Might be a strange request, but how does one go around finding people who can proof read.

The paper is a mix of mathematics and language, and pretty high profile.

So I need people who are familiar with academic work.


Juregen,

I heard about this place through my wife who works at Yonsei. Staffed by foreigners mostly with MAs who do proofreading work. They list prices as well.

http://en.yswriting.com/witprogram/index.asp?pno=3&cno=7&sub_no=4&level_no=353

There are a select few F visas, like ourselves, who do regular proofreading and editing work as freelancers so you are bound to get other replies. I do occasional proofreading/editing/writing, so if you are interested PM me.

Hope this helps.
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Guerciotti



Joined: 16 Feb 2009
Location: about 6,371.57 miles from Busan

PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 12:27 am    Post subject: Re: Proof reading Academic papers Reply with quote

Juregen wrote:
Might be a strange request, but how does one go around finding people who can proof read.

The paper is a mix of mathematics and language, and pretty high profile.

So I need people who are familiar with academic work.


Are you rewriting Godel, Escher, Bach? Smile
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dutchschultz



Joined: 01 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First off, let me say that what you are looking for is editing, not proofreading.

To proofread means to read printers' proofs, copy, etc., to detect and mark errors, esp. as an employee of a typesetting firm, newspaper office, or publishing house.

Now to answer your question, SNU and KAIST both have editing services available. I believe that you might have to be affiliated with SNU to use its service but I'm almost positive that anyone can use the services provided by KAIST. You can find information through both of their language centers.

In addition to those with F visas, those who work as editors in Korea have an E-7 (specialist visa).
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Toronto



Joined: 26 Nov 2007
Location: Seoul - Area

PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 6:25 pm    Post subject: interested Reply with quote

How do i get a hold of you?
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Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I seem to have a few interested people so I am going to narrow down the possible applicants.

The paper's general topic is "Game Theory, with non cooperative bargaining)", with a lot of mathematics involved, which makes grammar sometimes difficult to use.

Anyone worked in this field before?

The grammar of mathematics is easier then the grammar of English Smile.

Actually it is proofreading and editing. I have done some work on it, but I never wrote an academic paper (o yeah, it's to help out my better part btw) and I think I just don't have the proper experience to deal with that kind of stuff (it's pretty mind blowing Smile )


I will PM each one of you and ask for your general experience in editing (what field).
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Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 3:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Proof reading Academic papers Reply with quote

Guerciotti wrote:
Juregen wrote:
Might be a strange request, but how does one go around finding people who can proof read.

The paper is a mix of mathematics and language, and pretty high profile.

So I need people who are familiar with academic work.


Are you rewriting Godel, Escher, Bach? Smile


No, more of an alternative to the Nash Equilibrium.
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm on 2 editorial boards, serve as a reviewer/ref for several SSCI ranked journals, and have published in N. American and European academic, SSCI ranked journals. Here's my input:

If the paper is for journal publication and is intelligible, why not just submit it? Usually what happens is that if the editor finds the topic and content in tune with the objectives of the journal, independent journal refs (usually 3) will comment on the article (and whether or not it should be accepted for publication) and then, if found acceptable, suggest that it be proofed before final acceptance. There are usually theoretical challenges and input to be addressed and sometimes requests for additional statistical analysis. Then there is a separate final proofing stage before the aritcle goes to print.

You're probably looking at 10-15K a page for proofing at SNU, Yonsei, or KAIST. Might be money down the drain if the article doesn't get accepted in a ranked international journal.

Just my 2 cents. Do what you will.
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Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PRagic wrote:
I'm on 2 editorial boards, serve as a reviewer/ref for several SSCI ranked journals, and have published in N. American and European academic, SSCI ranked journals. Here's my input:

If the paper is for journal publication and is intelligible, why not just submit it? Usually what happens is that if the editor finds the topic and content in tune with the objectives of the journal, independent journal refs (usually 3) will comment on the article (and whether or not it should be accepted for publication) and then, if found acceptable, suggest that it be proofed before final acceptance. There are usually theoretical challenges and input to be addressed and sometimes requests for additional statistical analysis. Then there is a separate final proofing stage before the aritcle goes to print.

You're probably looking at 10-15K a page for proofing at SNU, Yonsei, or KAIST. Might be money down the drain if the article doesn't get accepted in a ranked international journal.

Just my 2 cents. Do what you will.


Your 2 cents are appreciated, thank you.

My better part is a perfectionist. She will also be using this paper for distributing it at conferences.

Her work is purely theoretical (at this point), and only a small academic group (+- 500) people will eventually get to read it. Mainly due to the theoretical part of it.

This paper will be tested on more practical grounds, but it is a theoretical paper to begin with, and very abstract.

Money is not really the issue, the paper is only around 10 pages long.
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frankly speaking



Joined: 23 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

two of my PhD students have recently written some work on "Game Theory." I don't think that the concepts are that difficult and the math doesn't need to obstruct properly written papers. I don't understand why scientific writers don't ever learn how to explain themselves in written form. There have been a few well crafted technical writers; however, most are so dry and dull and rely to much on graphs and charts.

I don't know why your partner doesn't just have her advisor/or professors edit it. I also concur with the other poster that said to submit it for publication. As long as it is well done, they will edit the language a little.

I also would check the references and abilities of anyone that claims to be an editor. Why pay a lot to someone who has never written or published him/herself. I would ask for a publication list prior to hiring someone especially if they don't have a graduate or post graduate degree. Anyone can claim that they can edit, but do they really know the guidelines for publishing in that specific field. Every field has it's own way of publishing and discussing academic findings.

Good luck

Good luck.
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