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Douglas_William
Joined: 29 Apr 2009
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 Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 9:12 am Post subject: Looking for guidance from someone who has broken a contract |
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I am in the middle of a contract right now, and I am thinking of breaking it to move to Seoul and pick up a different job. I tried fishing for advice once before, but the advice I got was largely moral in nature and not suited to my needs. The advice I did get consisted of broken bits and pieces of what I would assume to be the whole process.
What I would really appreciate, would be for someone who has actually broken a contract before to tell me exactly the process they had to go through to do so, and to move to their new school, or job, or whatever. If you have never broken a contract before, or are otherwise without very clear and useful practical knowledge of the process involved, please refrain from commenting here. Thank you in advance! |
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madoka
Joined: 27 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 10:54 am Post subject: |
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| Dude, are you retarded? You've already started a thread on this where many people came forward to give you good advice. How much more hand-holding do you need? |
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moosehead
Joined: 05 May 2007
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| Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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basically you need a letter of release (LOR) from your current school saying it's ok w/them for you to leave and go to the new school.
if they won't do it, your other option is to quit, leave the country and have the visa canceled when you leave.
there is the chance, however, that if you quit and leave without the LOR you will NOT be granted a new visa until the time has expired on the first one.
there are some who say this did not happen to them, others say it has. I think what it depends on is if you quit, and the school agrees to cancel your visa, then you are ok to get a new job; if Kimmi asks them to cancel it, and they refuse saying you broke the contract, then Kimmi makes you wait it out.
your best bet is to either do a midnight run if you can't tolerate the conditions or if you can, sit down and try and explain you want to leave, that you would like an LOR and try to negotiate one from that point on.
but be prepared for anything - your employer may not take it very well that you want to leave. |
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Sector7G
Joined: 24 May 2008
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| Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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Now,now, madoka, the term is challenged, not retarded.
You are wasting your time Moosehead. As madoka said he has already been told this several times by several different people. Not really sure which part he is not getting, but the term hand-holding came to my mind too. |
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Douglas_William
Joined: 29 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Sector7G wrote: |
Now,now, madoka, the term is challenged, not retarded.
You are wasting your time Moosehead. As madoka said he has already been told this several times by several different people. Not really sure which part he is not getting, but the term hand-holding came to my mind too. |
Actually, moosehead has given me several pieces of useful advice that nobody else did in that other post. I apologise if my level of understanding of matters dealing with Korean immigration and work VISAs is not up to your standards, you arrogant person, but this is my first time dealing with this issue and I don't see that there's anything wrong with wanting advice that's a)on topic and b)easy to understand. I thought the point of these fora was exactly that: that inexperienced people could come here and profit from the experience of others - what you called "hand-holding" - but I guess the point is for more experienced people to jeer at and judge the less experienced and waste space on their posts, diluting what could have been useful advice with reams of private arguments and off-topic comments. Thanks for your time, Sector7G. And moosehead, thanks for holding my hand. |
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Sector7G
Joined: 24 May 2008
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| Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Douglas_William wrote: |
| Sector7G wrote: |
Now,now, madoka, the term is challenged, not retarded.
You are wasting your time Moosehead. As madoka said he has already been told this several times by several different people. Not really sure which part he is not getting, but the term hand-holding came to my mind too. |
Actually, moosehead has given me several pieces of useful advice that nobody else did in that other post. I apologise if my level of understanding of matters dealing with Korean immigration and work VISAs is not up to your standards, you arrogant person, but this is my first time dealing with this issue and I don't see that there's anything wrong with wanting advice that's a)on topic and b)easy to understand. I thought the point of these fora was exactly that: that inexperienced people could come here and profit from the experience of others - what you called "hand-holding" - but I guess the point is for more experienced people to jeer at and judge the less experienced and waste space on their posts, diluting what could have been useful advice with reams of private arguments and off-topic comments. Thanks for your time, Sector7G. And moosehead, thanks for holding my hand. |
I don't see how I was being arrogant. I was trying to help you, as several others were in the other post. Here is what I wrote:
Sector7G wrote:
If you are sure this is your ideal job than I think your question has already been answered by both ontheway and Kikomom.
We are assuming of course you know not to sever the ties with the current school until a)you actually have the next job locked in, and b) you have all the required documents and paperwork in hand to process your new visa.
If you make a clean break and are given a LOR, you may be able to simply transfer your visa without having to leave the country.(I did this in February after only being at the previous job 4 months).
If you make a hard break by quitting you will have anywhere from 10 to 30 days(mileage may vary) to leave the country and do a visa run -Japan is the most convenient place to get this done.
To which you replied:
OK, so... nobody knows what I have to do?
Which was the third time you responded in the same way to similar advice from other people. Including me, 4 people gave you basically the same advice, including possible pitfalls to look out for. Moosehead makes 5. Ok, he added the possible pitfall that sometimes immi will not cancel until the original visa term is expired. But immi told me that as long as you give the proper notice they will let you cancel even without a LOR. There! Do you find that helpful??
I was not the only one who thought you were being obtuse. |
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The Grumpy Senator
Joined: 13 Jan 2008
Location: Up and down the 6 line
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| Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Sector7G wrote: |
I was not the only one who thought you were being obtuse. |
Oh no, you didn't just call him a triangle!!!!! |
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Sector7G
Joined: 24 May 2008
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| Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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| The Grumpy Senator wrote: |
| Sector7G wrote: |
I was not the only one who thought you were being obtuse. |
Oh no, you didn't just call him a triangle!!!!! |
Ha ha. No, I completely forgot about that use of the word.
Actually, when I hear the word I remember the warden in Shawshank Redemption saying," What did you just call me?" |
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Rory_Calhoun27
Joined: 14 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 5:04 am Post subject: |
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| madoka wrote: |
| Dude, are you retarded? You've already started a thread on this where many people came forward to give you good advice. How much more hand-holding do you need? |
I believe the PC term you look for is differentially capable." |
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Douglas_William
Joined: 29 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 5:51 am Post subject: |
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| Rory_Calhoun27 wrote: |
| madoka wrote: |
| Dude, are you retarded? You've already started a thread on this where many people came forward to give you good advice. How much more hand-holding do you need? |
I believe the PC term you look for is differentially capable." |
Enough of this nonsense. I'm handy-capable, ok?
Sector, sorry about the misunderstanding, and thanks for the help. |
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Sector7G
Joined: 24 May 2008
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| Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 6:10 am Post subject: |
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No worries, Douglas_William!
Good luck, I hope it all works out for you. Let the board knows how it turns out. |
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