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Switching schools (PS to hagwon); VISA QUESTIONS
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danseonsaeng



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 7:04 am    Post subject: Switching schools (PS to hagwon); VISA QUESTIONS Reply with quote

This is the deal.

I'm currently working for SMOE. My contract and visa expire at the end of August.

I'm hoping to start a new hagwon job in September (since, you know, that'd be the most convenient).

Assuming I find a new job in time, I need to know what I'll have to do in order to transfer my visa from one job to the other.

Do I have to submit everything all over again (the CBC, the health check, the apostilled copy of my diploma) or can I simply 'upgrade' the visa for my new location?

Must I start the new job before the old one ends in order for this process to run smoothly?

My current visa expires on the 24th of August; I know I can file for a 30 day extension, but I'll have to have a plane ticket in hand in order to do that. Can I change my visa to the new job during the 30 day extension period?

Basically, I need someone to tell me exactly what I need to do in order to make this as easy as possible.

I appreciate the advice. Thank you all very much.
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Scouse Mouse



Joined: 07 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have been here less than 1 year (i.e., you arrived after the new regulations took effect), you should be able to transfer your visa with ease.

But... this is Korea, and teachers here usually know more than Immi. Arguing with Immi is not a smart move either Razz

Your best bet would be to gather the docs again if possible, and then go ahead and submit them if you are asked.
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gangwonbound



Joined: 27 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as I know if going from Public school to Hagwon you need a new visa. Hagwon to Public (breaking Hagwon contract) you can transfer the visa. Also your old one is expiring and you will have to get a new one. You can't transfer a visa which is about to expire.
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danseonsaeng



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can anyone else confirm what either of these guys are saying?

If I HAVE to apply for a new visa (starting from scratch), is it possible to use copies of the documents I submitted for my current visa? It'd be a whole hell of a lot easier than getting a new CRC, health check and apostilled copy of my degree (how do I do that from Korea, by the way?).
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danseonsaeng



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To answer your question:
Yes, I have been here less than one year. How does that affect this situation?

If I start my new contract before my old contract ends, does that simplify the process? Or is it better to start the new contract after the old contract ends?

What has to happen? Do I have to leave the country? Do I have to submit all the documents all over again?

Can someone please provide a definitive answer?

Obviously, I'd like to stay in the country and simply switch jobs and update my visa.
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danseonsaeng



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can anyone offer a definitive response? It seems silly that there's so much confusion out there about this topic.
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Draz



Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gangwonbound wrote:
Also your old one is expiring and you will have to get a new one. You can't transfer a visa which is about to expire.


Yes you can!! Shocked Shocked This is the worst advice I've ever seen on this site. Just completely wrong. Even with immigration inconsistencies - this is ALWAYS going to be wrong!

Here's a thread to get you started OP: http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=153660

Pretty sure you don't need a letter of release to renew and transfer if your contract is expiring. I don't know much about this. afaik it's pretty easy. You probably need a new CBC.
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danseonsaeng



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Worst case scenario is I just do the process all over again, right? I won't have to leave country, will I? I can get the CBC and everything together, I just don't want to have to go back to the States between contracts.
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danseonsaeng



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another question -

If the new job doesn't start until AFTER the old one ends, I'll have to file for a 30-day extension. In order to that, however, I've gotta show them a plane ticket that say I'm leaving on such and such a day...

THAT SUCKS 'cause the point is NOT to leave.

Is this the only way the situation could play out or is there another way?
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kasain



Joined: 25 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, you sound desperate and very demanding. 6 post all in one day anbd demanding answers before one day has expired and letting people read.

To answer your question, you will need a letter of release. You can also pay 100,000 won for a 30 day extension to stay in Korea. This will handle the few days of overlap between old and new contract. You wont need a new visa, health or drug test. You will need the rest of the paperwork though.

My question why would you want to go from a public school to a hogwon?

You will still have the same ARC numbver btw.
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kasain



Joined: 25 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If the new job doesn't start until AFTER the old one ends, I'll have to file for a 30-day extension. In order to that, however, I've gotta show them a plane ticket that say I'm leaving on such and such a day...

THAT SUCKS 'cause the point is NOT to leave.


You wont have to leave, chill...
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danseonsaeng



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kasain wrote:
Wow, you sound desperate and very demanding. 6 post all in one day anbd demanding answers before one day has expired and letting people read.

To answer your question, you will need a letter of release. You can also pay 100,000 won for a 30 day extension to stay in Korea. This will handle the few days of overlap between old and new contract. You wont need a new visa, health or drug test. You will need the rest of the paperwork though.

My question why would you want to go from a public school to a hogwon?

You will still have the same ARC numbver btw.


Thanks very much for the info. Sorry for seeming uppity, I'm just eager to figure out the ins and outs of this process. Definitely feeling a bit nervous about the whole thing; hope it turns out easier than it sounds.

In order to get the extension, don't I have to submit a plane ticket?

When you say I will need the rest of the paperwork, are you referring to the CBC, photocopied passport page and apostilled copy of my diploma? Is there anything else I'm forgetting?

Let me know what's up. Thanks again.
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kasain



Joined: 25 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need no plane ticket when you get an extension. It will cost 100,000 won though.

As for paperwork I am talking about degree, transcripts and the contract with the hogwon. If you have a contract start date and school, let the hogwon get the visa.

Just have the LoR: and pay the 100,000 for 30 day extension: Inigration should be friendly to you.


You wont need the background check and health check as those are good for 1 year or as long as you stay in korea.
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danseonsaeng



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice, thanks for the info.

Can anyone else chime in?
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danseonsaeng



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to believe there's a simple answer to this question.

What happens when one switches places of employment? What's the process? What documents are needed in what time frame?

Can anyone with experience in this matter chime in?
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