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The Far Right's First 100 Days

 
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 2:32 pm    Post subject: The Far Right's First 100 Days Reply with quote

This is a fairly lengthy discussion of what we've been seeing work itself out on TV the last 3 months or so. The writer draws a disturbing parallel between Beck's and Jim Jones' line of thinking.

Here's an abbreviated excerpt from the end:

Let me start this last piece of the discussion with a warning. This isn't a prediction. It's just a description of how things typically play out when any authoritarian group arrives at the place where the American right now stands.

If they keep going this way, this is where the road leads -- but the people now in that movement still have a choice about whether they're actually going to make the trip. If they do, here's what lies ahead:

Further separation:
Overt lawlessness:
Picking fights with authorities:

From here, the most likely case is that the vast majority of the folks now drunk on right-wing hate talk will ultimately sober up just soon enough not to follow the movement's emerging leaders down this road. But, if the 1990s were any guide (and the DHS report seems to think that they are), there will also be a small but significant fraction of hard-core right-wingers who will zoom right through the flashing red lights and ride all the way to the bloody end.

What we've seen so far has been intense and surprising -- but we should also recognize it as the first warning gusts of a rapidly gathering storm.


http://www.alternet.org/democracy/139825/the_far_right%27s_first_100_days%3A_getting_more_extreme_by_the_day/?page=entire

The section about how some right-wingers separate themselves from society led me to think about the remarkable number of anti-government types here at Daves.
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 2:47 pm    Post subject: Re: The Far Right's First 100 Days Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:

The section about how some right-wingers separate themselves from society led me to think about the remarkable number of anti-government types here at Daves.


Would you know the difference between someone who leans right fiscally and someone who is anti-government? I'm not really sure you would.
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mises



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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If only left wingers would separate themselves from society us 'anti-government' types wouldn't feel so unique.



http://tinyurl.com/ndjfp
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Would you know the difference between someone who leans right fiscally and someone who is anti-government? I'm not really sure you would.


It must confuse you no end then when I say I've always been a fiscal conservative, at least since LBJ's Great Society was not funded (adequately) with tax money.

It may be appropriate to mention that the word 'far' was included in the title of the thread to clearly mark the contents as directed at a specific group of people.

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I really am interested in how other people feel about the contents of the article, especially about the author's connection of current behavior with Jim Jones.
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kuros wrote:
Ya-ta Boy wrote:

The section about how some right-wingers separate themselves from society led me to think about the remarkable number of anti-government types here at Daves.


Would you know the difference between someone who leans right fiscally and someone who is anti-government? I'm not really sure you would.


I do not trust Ya-ta Boy to discuss anyone to the right of Rachel or whoever else it is he seeks ideological guidance from these days. Note how quickly he seizes yet again on the easy propaganda opportunity to introduce mental illness through this ridiculous Jim Jones analogy.

In any case, this thread poses a good question, which I will modify: the Republicans' first 100 days...

I fail them.

I have grown increasingly frustrated with their behavior, particularly their newsletters and fundraising activities. One clich� and simplistic scare tactic after another. Will most likely declare myself an independent next time I get the chance...
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mises



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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose they're just not used to being out of power right now. When the Liberal Party (the natural governing party) was at threat of being removed in Canada they ran ads saying Harper was going to put tanks in Canadian cities to maintain order. Then they lost power, and the whole country apparently became a right wing dictatorship that doesn't represent the "will of Canadians". Etc.

I'm sure the Repubs will settle and eventually get around to finding sane leadership, as did the Fed Libs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68toCAiPIjo&feature=PlayList&p=5D06EA63BA004D3A&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=8
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
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Would you know the difference between someone who leans right fiscally and someone who is anti-government? I'm not really sure you would.


It must confuse you no end then when I say I've always been a fiscal conservative, at least since LBJ's Great Society was not funded (adequately) with tax money.

It may be appropriate to mention that the word 'far' was included in the title of the thread to clearly mark the contents as directed at a specific group of people.


My apologies, then. But you do undertake a fair amount of baiting on this site.
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mole



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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Show your PRIDE
with one of these.
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prediction: the left, increasingly smug and confident in power, will overstep itself (again). Then someone will emerge and articulate something like this (again)...

Quote:
Boy, the way Glenn Miller played. Songs that made the Hit Parade.
Guys like us, we had it made. Those were the days.
Didn't need no welfare state. Everybody pulled his weight.
Gee, our old LaSalle ran great. Those were the days.

And you know who you were then. Girls were girls and men were men.
Mister, we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again.
People seemed to be content. Fifty dollars paid the rent.
Freaks were in a circus tent. Those were the days.

Take a little Sunday spin, go to watch the Dodgers win.
Have yourself a dandy day that cost you under a fin.
Hair was short and skirts were long. Kate Smith really sold a song.
I don't know just what went wrong. Those Were The Days.


Then someone like Ronald Reagan will emerge. And then American politics will go the other way again.

Ya-ta Boy's condescending and sneering baiting only represents a minor example of how the left is going to eventually lose its head (again).

Americans remain essentially conservative.
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Leslie Cheswyck



Joined: 31 May 2003
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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let Ya-ta bait all he wants.

He just got this month's issue of Whithouse magazine, the one with the Obama centerfold.
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ubermenzch



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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
Prediction: the left, increasingly smug and confident in power, will overstep itself (again). Then someone will emerge and articulate something like this (again)...

Quote:
Boy, the way Glenn Miller played. Songs that made the Hit Parade.
Guys like us, we had it made. Those were the days.
Didn't need no welfare state. Everybody pulled his weight.
Gee, our old LaSalle ran great. Those were the days.

And you know who you were then. Girls were girls and men were men.
Mister, we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again.
People seemed to be content. Fifty dollars paid the rent.
Freaks were in a circus tent. Those were the days.

Take a little Sunday spin, go to watch the Dodgers win.
Have yourself a dandy day that cost you under a fin.
Hair was short and skirts were long. Kate Smith really sold a song.
I don't know just what went wrong. Those Were The Days.


Then someone like Ronald Reagan will emerge. And then American politics will go the other way again.

Ya-ta Boy's condescending and sneering baiting only represents a minor example of how the left is going to eventually lose its head (again).

Americans remain essentially conservative.

wrong.
aren't you the guy that bemoans the constant 'looking back to explain what will happen next' that happens on this board? i guess it's too much to expect a little consistency.
predictions are silly.
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