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[BizzeeB123]

Hello, I've posted a version of this ad on craigslist Seoul (which doesn't get much traffic) and Groove magazine (which surprisingly hasn't received much of a response either) so I thought maybe I could try here, too.

I am trying to form a writing group for (relatively) serious writers living in Seoul. There is already a writing group (maybe two, in fact) which exists here, but I have been to several of the meetings and, although the members are very friendly, the quality of writing is, to be honest, a bit low. I have published work, and yes, I'm here teaching, like everyone else (!) but I don't really want to read works by people who have simply decided to start writing because they are here and need a hobby...

I've run a group in NYC before and what works best is about 5-6 people meeting bi-weekly, sharing work beforehand, and then workshopping it together. I already have 2 people from the current group whose work is pretty solid, I'm looking for about 3 more. If you're interested, please respond to this post with your email address, or send me a sample to [email protected].

thanks!

[VanIslander]

[BizzeeB123]

wow, what a miserable, douche bag hater made that last post! his parents must be proud!

[grunden]

[hamlet712]

[John_ESL_White]

I've been published in a small literary mag in the southern US called the Sun.

It's a pretty snooty, snobby rag.

I'd like to join your club, but I want to know more about you and your writing first. Are you worthy of me?

Put somethin up for me. I want a sample. And, what the heellll are you writing; fiction, non-fiction, poetry,...?

Can my friend who writes jokes join? What exactly are you looking for?

I think, my friend, your post shows that you lack fundamental writing skills. In fact, your message-e here is so vague that you are not getting interest; you are only getting questions. And, they are questions you should've answered in your OP.

It is no wonder that Groove mag and even, gasp, Craigslist shows you no interest. Your writing suks. If I'm wrong, prove it. pretentious such and such; so far, your sample shows you are not worthy of starting a writing club. whatever the he ll that is

[nomaster]

I'm with Bizzee here, you guys are closing off all hope of conversation with your virulent negativity.
You suppose you know his personality because he asked a simple question, made a simple request to create a productive group.
Beginning level groups and mixed groups serve different purposes than a group of folks who want to grow faster dig deeper than would be possible with "lower" level groups.
Lower in this case does not mean less talented, it means beginning.
Get off your high horses and open up with positive questions if you have them.

If you can't be constructive, move away from the keyboard!

[huffdaddy]

[Young FRANKenstein]

[mack the knife]

[John_ESL_White]

[mack the knife]

[roadwork]

HAH!! Notice that this douchie hasn't been back yet?

[harlowethrombey]

-More than 30 published articles.

-Presented at the English Conference.

-National English Scholar

-My Mom really likes my work.

-Got a gold star in the third grade.

-Frequently published on the internet site:Dave's ESL



Sniff, you are all below me.

[BizzeeB123]

Wow, it's amazing how much genuinely bitter invective can be spewed off in response to a relatively benign posting - unhappy with our lives, our we, 'professors'?

Yes, objectivity in determining 'quality' in writing is a difficult thing to ascertain, but no, it is not impossible. And no, it is not arrogant to say that the writing of others is not as good as one's own writing, especially when comparing one's own writing to pieces which are often grammatically/syntactically incorrect and/or entirely devoid of creativity.

I taught English Composition at a college in NY for several semesters before coming here and no, that does not, by default, make me a 'good' writer. However, when I wanted to form a writing group in New York City, which I daresay has a slightly more fertile and yes, 'better', writing scene than the expat community of Seoul, I posted an ad and received dozens of replies, with samples, with which I compared my own writing to see where people were creatively and artistically. Then I led the group for a year. That's kind of how it works.

So please, if you have nothing better to do with your time than cut down someone you don't know whose posting you've misunderstood because you are dissatisfied with where your own life's path has taken you, then that is something to take up with your therapist or your afternoon Advanced class. As for my part, I'm still looking for a few serious writers, with whom I'll gladly share my work for mutual critique.