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Goku



Joined: 10 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 6:33 pm    Post subject: Power teaching Reply with quote

I Know I've seen several topics about this already,

but as we are all well aware such things such as the search function on dave's is about as useful as ubrella is for farming.

Has anyone had any good or bad exepriecnes with Power teaching in an ESL setting.

I just imagine all my kids getting confused on what to do and talking about pokemon while it happens.
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RufusW



Joined: 14 Jun 2008
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I look at Youtube videos and tried my hand. Things like saying class.ready....class class ready ready...etc might work and the idea of keeping your students constantly concentrated on the teaching/the topic is good.

But the central idea is students teaching each other small amounts of information, and this is basically impossible in ESL, although maybe at HS, Uni, business level it'd be possible.

I think real power ESL teaching would be awesomely efficient games that require very little resources, are very easily extended to tougher language and keep the kids interested for long times. (With some of those you wouldn't need anything else)
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Phant0m



Joined: 15 May 2008
Location: in your mind~

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw those vids on youtube before coming to korea and tried those techniques in my HS classes. The class/yes works when I want to get their focus back to me in all but the vocational classes. The class reward/punishment points doesn't work too well, but useful when used for individuals. I have a list of the students' names and nicknames and tell them when and why they get their positive or negative points. It also happened to work out because the school/co-teachers wanted me to keep track of their anyway (after most of the way through the semester)
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robot



Joined: 07 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2009 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find this method extremely cheesy and gimmicky.

An entire course conducted this way would get irritating fast, and I imagine a good portion the students in some of these vids were just playing along for the camera.
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lifeinkorea



Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2009 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WTF????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTwjFHorQhk
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Big Mac



Joined: 17 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2009 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only word I can think of to describe this is: bizarre.

The hand movements are weird and I don't really get them. There is just so much going on at one time that I don't know how the teacher could possibly keep track of it all. How do you know if the kids are actually understanding what they're blabbering on about? How do you know they actually know what they are talking about?

I'm all for experimenting with new ways of teaching but after watching this video I can't say I'm impressed.
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tanklor1



Joined: 13 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2009 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Intertesting vids but they seem to be tailered for a native-speaker. Also I'm all for drama and vigor in the classroom but I think that if one would truely try this method in a Korean classroom it would scare the sh!t out of our bosses.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2009 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kinda gimmicky, but I think I liked it. I'd like to see it demonstrated in an ESL classroom to watch how that would work.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2009 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
Kinda gimmicky, but I think I liked it. I'd like to see it demonstrated in an ESL classroom to watch how that would work.


That's what I was thinking. I sure would have found this approach annoying when I was a secondary school student, and it's an extremely teacher-centred method. I actually wanted to ask one of the founders of this method about it on an American-based teaching forum but I got kicked off for offending the God-damn Christian fundamentalist fucks, lol.

It would be lovely if the Korean public education system had the capability to pilot a course using this method and then compare end results, but of course that could never happen with Koreans running the show.
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D.D.



Joined: 29 May 2008

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2009 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just tried this with little introduction and it went quite well. I guess if it was properly introduced and used it might work. It would get them to talk a lot without knowing what they are saying just like Crazy English in China.

Difficult thing would be keeping up the class participation. About half the kids caught onto it right away today which is quite amazing for a 5 minute demo.
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RufusW



Joined: 14 Jun 2008
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PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2009 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="D.D."]I just tried this with little introduction and it went quite well./quote]

How did you ask students to teach each other language? I understand you can practice language like this, but how do you actually teach language via this method. I think this is the central concept of power teaching.
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D.D.



Joined: 29 May 2008

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2009 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I said we did the motions for 5 minutes. Next five minutes I will try and fit the whole course and methods in their for you Rufus.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2009 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My classes are mixed levels and it works great. Read up on it before you judge it. I've never watched a youtube video about it. I also cut out the cheesy crap.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2009 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My classes are mixed levels and it works great. Read up on it before you judge it. I've never watched a youtube video about it. I also cut out the cheesy crap.
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Goku



Joined: 10 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2009 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bibbitybop wrote:
My classes are mixed levels and it works great. Read up on it before you judge it. I've never watched a youtube video about it. I also cut out the cheesy crap.


But isn't that what makes Power Teaching?

the cheesy crap.

I thought power teaching was a bunch of series of slaps, hustle hustle, blue 83, green 29, hike hike hike!!!

I mean, that's the feeling I get, but honestly i don't see that as a bad thing. It gets people pumped up (especially the kinestetic students).
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