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Goku



Joined: 10 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 5:18 pm    Post subject: VP dropped the hammer on me Reply with quote

Laughing

I got a great suprise today.

The Vice Principal talked to me about 4 things I need to improve upon


1) Get to work on time, my bad, I'm always a bit late 5-10 minutes. Usually I spend too much time in the morning logging into World of Warcraft and updaing Auction house (nerd talk so probably a handful of people will know what I mean)

2) Wearing slippers, This is just kind of hard because I wear a pants a shirt and a tie, and wearing slippers doesn't exactly complete the ensemble... It looks so unprofessional ug. But I'm wearing them atm and they feel good..

3) Be more passionate. I'm capricious sometimes I'm excited. Sometimes I'm a bit on the drone side. Either way, kind a BS thing that because he's VP he just has to say it. I totally understand that.

4) Learn Korean culture. This kind of came out of the blue for me. lol... If I need to be critized, I don't exactly think this is a valid concern. But somehow, I feel a lot of FT's might be critized for this kind of thing.

So now I ask to you guys. Have you been hit with similar critisms? How did you react? Did you just do them (obviously I will for 1+2)? or did you find ways around them?
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Fishead soup



Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be most concerned about #1 and #3. The rest is just typical VP talk.

#1: This is just one of those things Koreans get uptight about. It doesn't matter if you don't teach untill 11 they want you in the door at whatever.
#2: This is just that typical" When in Rome" VP's love this kinda stuff makes them feel really important
#3: This ones the most vague. Ask specifically what he wants. Whether he would like you to be more animated when you teach. In other words does he want you to do more of the dancing monkey act. As indicated by your avator. Or more involved with things like afterschool programs.
#4 Typical VP talk take it with a grain of salt.
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Straphanger



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Chilgok, Korea

PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 5:58 pm    Post subject: Re: VP dropped the hammer on me Reply with quote

Goku wrote:
So now I ask to you guys. Have you been hit with similar critisms? How did you react? Did you just do them (obviously I will for 1+2)? or did you find ways around them?

I know a guy who's worked at one of the top five elementary schools in the country. All he had to do was trot out the results and improvements from the previous year and say "This is what I've accomplished, doing what I'm doing. Would you like anything to change, really?" The answer was "No."
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cmr



Joined: 22 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 6:22 pm    Post subject: Re: VP dropped the hammer on me Reply with quote

Goku wrote:

1) Get to work on time, my bad, I'm always a bit late 5-10 minutes.

That's an understandable complaint.

Goku wrote:

2) Wearing slippers...

I agree with you about the slippers not looking very professional. Also, I don't find them very comfortable, especially going up and down the stairs, and they are far from warm enough in winter, so I wear shoes. I'm the only in my school who does so, but I wear indoor shoes that I use only in my school.

Goku wrote:

3) Be more passionate.

Yeah, right! What does he want, another teacher in the news for being too friendly with his students? If he ever says anything about it again, just make sure he tells you exactly what he means by that because it's far from clear.

Goku wrote:

4) Learn Korean culture.

Again, this is something that can mean many things. Maybe he just wanted to add something more and that was an easy one, or maybe he was trying to say that you're doing something that goes against the Korean way of doing things or even there is something you don't do and should. At any rate, if he tells you again that you should learn Korean culture, you could politely ask him if there is a problem and if so to "teach" you about Korean culture by telling you what's wrong.
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lifeinkorea



Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China

PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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4) Learn Korean culture.


Ok, so next time 2 students fight, get out some tape and have them stand facing each other. The one who started it will be called "North (shool name)" and the other "South (school name)" Very Happy
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moosehead



Joined: 05 May 2007

PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 7:23 pm    Post subject: Re: VP dropped the hammer on me Reply with quote

Goku wrote:

4) Learn Korean culture. This kind of came out of the blue for me. lol... If I need to be critized, I don't exactly think this is a valid concern. But somehow, I feel a lot of FT's might be critized for this kind of thing.



that's quite astonishing but not unusual.

it's incredibly offensive to be told, however. I think it should go without mentioning that if a college-educated professional accepts a position overseas, that person would have some kind of incentive to learn about the local culture wouldn't they?

on the other hand does this have something to do w/you refusing to go out drinking? when I was in ps I didn't care much for that. I'd go to the dinners and all but once the drinking started I'd leave.

whatever. Rolling Eyes
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meangradin



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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a suggestion in regards to the slippers: buy some "Crocs." They are now available in Korea, they come in huge sizes (I'm a 300) and they are very comfortable, not to mention, relatively stylish.

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Xuanzang



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang

PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't they all wear slippers though?
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought a set of slip-on shoes that I only wear indoors.

I don't know if shoes is the right word, they have no back, but have a full toe.

They are more comfortable and look more professional than the standard school slippers.


About the culture thing, some principals can be real arse-grinders about that. The way some have dealt with it is to learn a bit of Korean language.

There are some simple video lessons on youtube or a begginner site
here: rki.kbs.co.kr/learn_korean/lessons/e_index.htm
This usually satisfies them.

The other points have been dealt with by other posters.
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D.D.



Joined: 29 May 2008

PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

meangradin wrote:
I have a suggestion in regards to the slippers: buy some "Crocs." They are now available in Korea, they come in huge sizes (I'm a 300) and they are very comfortable, not to mention, relatively stylish.



Crocs stylish?
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ekul



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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a pair of normal dress shoes that I just keep at school in my little cupboard and walk to school in trainers. I don't see why it has to be slippers only, I always thought it was an indoor/outdoor thing. Anyway I've never been pulled up on it before.

This post makes me quietly chuckle on the inside, especially because of your avatar and the fact you're late to school because you need to update auctioneer. You've been told you're boring, come late to school each day, don't have indoor shoes and apparently do not understand Korean culture (I can forgive that one).
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Goku



Joined: 10 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the responses guys. Actually all of them I think were helpful.

The VP is well known for his harshness. He's usually yelling at parents or teachers everyday. Other co-teachers don't like him, but he's not such a bad guy really. I'm just glad he didn't chew me out. He actually treated me quite respectfully.

Anyways

The being late and the shoes. I can deal with that. Totally my fault. Don't get me wrong. I'm hard working and pretty punctual for most things. But the biggest reasons I don't like showing up on time is because I have to deal with a horde of kids calling me handsome and wanting to give me high fives... The WoW of AH thing actually now that I think about it isn't so frequent.

The shoes, Imma get somethign crocish like you suggested. Actually I have been switching shoes. the problem is they look identical, the indoors and outdoor ones. I'm not sure if his issue is that he's mistaken, or it actually has to be indoor shoes. Either way, I'm not going to argue and just wear the damn slippers. Maybe I'll sock to him a little and get pink ones that look bunnies. Laughing

A few of you mentioned the passion. Well, honestly I think he's clearly mistaken on that. I'm no candy, games, and stickers teacher anymore. When I did that, YEAH it was great. I was happy, the kids were happy, the co-teacher was excited. Was fun, but when I tested the English on all the kids, no on remembered a damn thing. I was so dissapointed. Now I run the classroom like a normal Korean teacher and the results have been more than satisfactory. So I'll ignore his comments about passion and like Fishead said, the dancing monkey act (lol). I absolutely refuse to go the candy route anymore... It hurts because honestly I liked doing it that way since these kids are so stressed... not to mention the huge amount of love (if you want to call it that) from the students. But I have some principals regarding the kids learn something for life. So I won't budge and go back to games. And let's be hoenst, I can't be 100% all the time. Sometimes I'm just tired.

The cultural thing. Well I told all the co-teachers about it and they all agreed it was kind of out of the blue and completely wrong about me. It didn't make sense really. Now while I respect my VP actually... I couldn't really understand what he meant. I talk to my co-teachers it's usually something about me interested in Korean culture. So he probably just doesn't understand what we're talking about. I think you had it right waygukin when you said it's about learning the language. I think that's what he meant. I've been planning to learn some more Korean for teaching purposes. And so I can buy something other than bibimbap from gimpab naras....
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bundangbabo



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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goku wrote:
I don't like showing up on time is because I have to deal with a horde of kids calling me handsome and wanting to give me high fives...


Goku - as soon as we are allowed to post photos on this site - I'm calling you out to post a photo of yourself on the 'how hawt are you' thread... Twisted Evil Let us be the judge and maybe you won't use every one out of three posts you put up on here telling us how handsome you are!

As JohnnyRotten and my mum have always said - 'if you go around telling people how handsome you are - chances are you aren't handsome'
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Goku



Joined: 10 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bundangbabo wrote:
Goku wrote:
I don't like showing up on time is because I have to deal with a horde of kids calling me handsome and wanting to give me high fives...


Goku - as soon as we are allowed to post photos on this site - I'm calling you out on posting a photo of yourself on the 'how hawt are you' thread... Twisted Evil Let us be the judge and maybe you won't use every one out of three posts you put up on here telling us how handsome you are!

As JohnnyRotten and my mum have always said - 'if you go around telling people how handsome you are - chances are you aren't handsome'


lmao, its the damn kids...

I'm just average really. But all the Koreans kids call their FT handsome...

Don't they call you too? Twisted Evil
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bundangbabo



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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goku wrote:
bundangbabo wrote:
Goku wrote:
I don't like showing up on time is because I have to deal with a horde of kids calling me handsome and wanting to give me high fives...


Goku - as soon as we are allowed to post photos on this site - I'm calling you out on posting a photo of yourself on the 'how hawt are you' thread... Twisted Evil Let us be the judge and maybe you won't use every one out of three posts you put up on here telling us how handsome you are!

As JohnnyRotten and my mum have always said - 'if you go around telling people how handsome you are - chances are you aren't handsome'


lmao, its the damn kids...

I'm just average really. But all the Koreans kids call their FT handsome...

Don't they call you too? Twisted Evil


They do actually (on occasion) Laughing as do the young female K teachers (when I get a haircut) - but I don't post about it all the time - I am on page 60 on the 'how hawt are you thread' though I am a more squidgy version these days! Evil or Very Mad


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