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THE LEFT-WING MEDIA FALLACY

 
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blade



Joined: 30 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 5:30 pm    Post subject: THE LEFT-WING MEDIA FALLACY Reply with quote

THE LEFT-WING MEDIA FALLACY
Jeremy Bowen, The BBC, And Other National Treasures
It is a mistake to imagine that media corporations are impervious to all complaints and criticism. In fact, senior editors and managers are only too happy to accept that their journalists tend to be 'anti-American,' 'anti-Israel,' 'anti-Western,' indeed utterly rotten with left-wing bias.

In June 2007, an internal BBC report revealed that Auntie Beeb had long been perpetrating high media crimes, including: "institutional left-wing bias" and "being anti-American". ('Lambasting for the "trendy Left-wing bias" of BBC bosses,' Daily Mail, June 18, 2007)

Former BBC political editor, Andrew Marr, applied his forensic journalistic skills, noting that the BBC was comprised of "an abnormally large proportion of younger people, of people in ethnic minorities and almost certainly of gay people, compared with the population at large". This, he deduced, "creates an innate liberal bias". (Nicole Martin, 'BBC viewers angered by its "innate liberal bias",' Daily Telegraph, June 19, 2007)

On the other hand, despite the fact that the media system is made up of corporations that are deeply dependent on corporate advertisers (for revenue) and official government sources (for subsidised news), other possibilities are unthinkable. If one were crazy enough, one might ask, for example:

'Is it accurate to describe the corporate media as servile to concentrated power? Or, as a key component of the state-corporate system, is media propaganda best described as a form of self-service?' continued...

http://medialens.org/alerts/09/090508_the_left_wing.php
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RufusW



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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That was a struggle to read, not very well written.

Anyway, I'm pretty proud of the BBC and the job it does. Although it obviously does have problems presenting an unbiased view (every viewpoint is biased in some way) overall it does a good job. It also does a good job of reigning in the right-wing. Sky News can't go as far as they (Murdoch) want because they'd look silly.

I always watched Channel 4 news in the UK and was occasionally surprised at how 'lefty' it was, but they probably do the best job at investigating and exposing important issues. Honestly I think their reportage is a league above American news. And Snow grills people properly.

I think the BBC itself makes a good case for tax funded news. The entertainment will slowly and surely be cut off.

"Reality has a well-known liberal bias" Colbert.
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dporter



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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2009 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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MSNBC.com identified 143 journalists who made political contributions from 2004 through the start of the 2008 campaign, according to the public records of the Federal Election Commission. Most of the newsroom checkbooks leaned to the left: 125 journalists gave to Democrats and liberal causes. Only 16 gave to Republicans. Two gave to both parties.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19113485

In the U.S. it is clear the the mainstream media leans left. With their coverage and with their money.
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AmericanExile



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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It all depends on your perspective. It turns out most papers anger most people who define themselves as very political. Why? Because no paper is usually 100% liberal or conservative. A conservative could read the Chicago Tribune (famously conservative) read 20 articles and get think the paper is liberal because 2 of those articles have a liberal slant. Those things which contradict our beliefs stand out much more than those things we agree with. It happens to me (a liberal), when I read the New York Times (famously liberal). So, like any good homer I stick with the Tribune. I'm gonna be irritated anyway, so I may as well be annoyed by locals. Plus, I can keep my eye on the other side that way.

I do think media outlets have started a more liberal slant after 8 years of Bush. They smelled blood and went for the jugular. Obama has had a honeymoon, but things will shift more conservative. Reports question those in power. Right now that is the dems in the states, so media will start to seem conservative soon enough.

Finally, I had a prof who taught that all media was inherently conservative. They may be for democrats. They may be for republicans. However, they all support the system, and rarely ever even question it. Examples, do we need a president with the expensive elections or would a prime minister be better? In the era of internet where people have access to information and can dicuss things worldwide instantly, do we need a government or could we just vote on everything ourselves? Media outlets don't ask these questions. They support the status quo. QED: conservative. That was his argument.
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

medialens is a FAR left wing site. Buyer beware.
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ernie



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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

when considering an organization's 'political leanings', i think it makes far more sense to consider who OWNS the company instead of who works for it. using the same logic of those people who claim a 'left-wing media bias', we could say that the nike corporation is communist because their sweatshop workers are chinese.
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blade



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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AmericanExile wrote:

Finally, I had a prof who taught that all media was inherently conservative. They may be for democrats. They may be for republicans. However, they all support the system, and rarely ever even question it. Examples, do we need a president with the expensive elections or would a prime minister be better? In the era of internet where people have access to information and can dicuss things worldwide instantly, do we need a government or could we just vote on everything ourselves? Media outlets don't ask these questions. They support the status quo. QED: conservative. That was his argument.

It's nice to see that at least one person understood my OP.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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do we need a government or could we just vote on everything ourselves?....


So you are saying you are against the Constitution--is that right? If not, what is it you do mean? It sounds like you want to scrap the Congress and adopt some kind of democracy.

Please explain your position.
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AmericanExile



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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
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do we need a government or could we just vote on everything ourselves?....


So you are saying you are against the Constitution--is that right? If not, what is it you do mean? It sounds like you want to scrap the Congress and adopt some kind of democracy.

Please explain your position.


Re-read. I'm not advocating anything.
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2009 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
medialens is a FAR left wing site. Buyer beware.

Beware of Joo. He is a labeler and a messenger attacker.
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