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gbeattie



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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 1:41 pm    Post subject: my list of questions about korea Reply with quote

Hello Everyone

My name is Graeme and I just got my B.Sc. in Physical Science from McMaster University. In order to pay off my considerable student loans I have decided to teach ESL in korea. I am going to do the 120 hour course that Trinity is offering to get some TESOL training and then get a job in Korea and see how my first year goes. If I like it then I plan on doing the four week CELTA training and then doing some more ESL. Since I have never done ESL or been to Korea I have a list of questions that I was hoping that people wiser and more experienced than I could answer. Right now I am seriously considering a public school in Seoul since I have read that Korea tends to be an insular society and I figure the largest city would offer the highest chance of being Westernized.

1. What Kind of Transportation system is there in the cities and to get around the country?

2. Will I be in an apartment with other people teaching ESL and especially some people who speak Korean as well as English?

3. How easy is it to navigate around the cities? Are the signs posted in English as well as Korean?

4. How hard is Korean to learn well enough to be able to read street signs and other marking to allow me to get around a city? How easy is it to learn enough Korean to carry on a conversation with someone if I get lost and need help?

5. How do I pay my bills in Korea? Do I mail a cheque or do I have to go to the bank?

6. What is the cost of living like in Korea? I heard that the electric bill is like $15 a month. Is this a typical electric bill, what about other bills like the water bill and heat?

7. I heard that a lot of people that have gone to Korea really love the food was this true for you? What were some of your favourite dishes?

8. How easy is it to find Western food in supermarkets and as far as fast food goes in Korea?

9. I don�t mean any disrespect with this next question but, how thick is the average Korean accent and what is the best way to hear someone through the accent?

10. What is the best way to make sure I am understandable since I will have a Canadian accent?

11. What kind of entertainment is there in Korea? Movies, sports, music concerts, video games?

12. What is the size of a typical apartment that you get while doing ESL in Korea?

13. How do I go about washing my clothes? I assume self serve laundry mats?

14. Are the washrooms similar to the ones in North America as in a private bathroom with a shower and a toilet and a sink?

15. What are the grocery stores like? Is it more like an open market or is it more like the closed in buildings you find in Canada?

16. Can I drive a car with my G license?

17. Are the road signs pictorial or do they use words?

18. What are the medical facilities like? Are they walk-in clinics and family practitioners or just hospitals?

19. I am a 46 for my pants size and a 12.5 for my shoe size so how easy is it to find pants and shoes in my size in Korea?

20. As far as needed a BA goes does it matter that I have a three year degree and not a four year degree?


Thanks in advance
Graeme
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alphakennyone



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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They didn't teach you the acronym "RTFF!" at McMaster's, did they?
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curlygirl



Joined: 26 Mar 2007
Location: Pundang, Seohyeon dong

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not usually one for sarcasm on message boards but I really do have to agree with the poster above ^.

Way too many questions there and almost all of the information you require is available if you just read the FAQ. Then again, maybe someone will be kind enough to take a good hour or so of their time to answer each of your questions. (They are good questions by the way, just too numerous by far)

My advice: if you really need this much hand holding you may want to reconsider coming to Korea. Stating the bleeding obvious, you won't be in Kansas anymore after you arrive, and assistance is most likely NOT around the corner.

Do your research thoroughly by reading through the FAQ and other forum posts before you even consider Korea as a place to kick off your teaching career. There are easier options out there.
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phoneboothface



Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 2:53 pm    Post subject: Re: my list of questions about korea Reply with quote

Just search around the forum. I'll give you a quickie cuz I woke up too early. Low quality ahead...

1. What Kind of Transportation system is there in the cities and to get around the country?

Don't worry about this, taxis are cheap and the subway goes everywhere in Seoul. And the bus system is good too.

2. Will I be in an apartment with other people teaching ESL and especially some people who speak Korean as well as English?

Maybe. But there's not that many foreigners around... it's up to your school and you of course. Ask them. You could look for your own place and live in amazing neighborhoods like Haebangcheon.

3. How easy is it to navigate around the cities? Are the signs posted in English as well as Korean?

Easy for Seoul, thanks to the subway. I prefer buses now...
Some signs are in English. It would serve you well to learn how to read the basic Korean signs of course.


4. How hard is Korean to learn well enough to be able to read street signs and other marking to allow me to get around a city? How easy is it to learn enough Korean to carry on a conversation with someone if I get lost and need help?

Anyone can learn a new language... just stick to it. Not exactly easy...

5. How do I pay my bills in Korea? Do I mail a cheque or do I have to go to the bank?

You can have lots of bills automatically deducted from you account or you can just pay them manually yourself online or at the bank. Easy. I've never mailed any bill related stuff.

6. What is the cost of living like in Korea? I heard that the electric bill is like $15 a month. Is this a typical electric bill, what about other bills like the water bill and heat?

Other things are too expensive to make up for cheap utilities. My power bill was 20k, water 4k, gas 40k. In the winter my gas bill goes as high as like 70k and in the summer my power bill goes up to like 90k?

7. I heard that a lot of people that have gone to Korea really love the food was this true for you? What were some of your favourite dishes?

Um it's ok. I shop at Costco too but it's nice to have Korean as an option. What I don't like is any of the soups...

8. How easy is it to find Western food in supermarkets and as far as fast food goes in Korea?

Most of it is overpriced. Not that easy per se. Go to Costco or something. There isn't a Wendys or Taco Bell here. Nasty McDs and Burger King are common.


9. I don�t mean any disrespect with this next question but, how thick is the average Korean accent and what is the best way to hear someone through the accent?

Seoul accent is standard. Busan is fun to listen to and you get the hang of it kind of. And I don't get the 2nd part of your Q.

10. What is the best way to make sure I am understandable since I will have a Canadian accent?

Imitate a Korean accent as best you can....

11. What kind of entertainment is there in Korea? Movies, sports, music concerts, video games?

Yes. Get here and see.


12. What is the size of a typical apartment that you get while doing ESL in Korea?

Results may vary. Widely. One room hole on up. Ask your school.

13. How do I go about washing my clothes? I assume self serve laundry mats?

Get a washing machine. Laundry mats are few and far between here.

14. Are the washrooms similar to the ones in North America as in a private bathroom with a shower and a toilet and a sink?

Sometimes they are smaller and you can wash the whole bathroom with the shower head. Most are NA style... like in an officetel.

15. What are the grocery stores like? Is it more like an open market or is it more like the closed in buildings you find in Canada?

Both are plentiful. But the indoor grocery stores here suck compared to NA, imo.


16. Can I drive a car with my G license?

Dunno sry.


17. Are the road signs pictorial or do they use words?

Arrows and words and stuff. You can figure them out.


18. What are the medical facilities like? Are they walk-in clinics and family practitioners or just hospitals?

All of the above... I prefer goin to the big and well known hospitals because they seem to be cleaner.

19. I am a 46 for my pants size and a 12.5 for my shoe size so how easy is it to find pants and shoes in my size in Korea?

Difficult. Search and/or order online.

20. As far as needed a BA goes does it matter that I have a three year degree and not a four year degree?

Whoops um search around. You need a BA, but some nations give out BAs after just 3 years right...?

Hope you enjoyed my crappy answers. I only killed like 8min. Confused
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mld



Joined: 05 Jan 2009
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 3:12 pm    Post subject: Re: my list of questions about korea Reply with quote

I added some to the previous answers....

1. What Kind of Transportation system is there in the cities and to get around the country?

Don't worry about this, taxis are cheap and the subway goes everywhere in Seoul. And the bus system is good too.

Transportation between cities is also pretty good with trains and buses running pretty much everywhere.

2. Will I be in an apartment with other people teaching ESL and especially some people who speak Korean as well as English?

Maybe. But there's not that many foreigners around... it's up to your school and you of course. Ask them. You could look for your own place and live in amazing neighborhoods like Haebangcheon.

3. How easy is it to navigate around the cities? Are the signs posted in English as well as Korean?

Easy for Seoul, thanks to the subway. I prefer buses now...
Some signs are in English. It would serve you well to learn how to read the basic Korean signs of course.


4. How hard is Korean to learn well enough to be able to read street signs and other marking to allow me to get around a city? How easy is it to learn enough Korean to carry on a conversation with someone if I get lost and need help?

Anyone can learn a new language... just stick to it. Not exactly easy...

Learning to read Korean is a lot easier than it might seem at first. Many people can get a basic grasp of it in a day or two (of course it takes a while to understand how to read perfectly). As for carrying on a conversation, that will take a bit longer. It wouldn't be too difficult to memorize a few phrases (e.g. How do I get to...?, Where are the.....) but understanding the answers is a whole new ball game. If you want to learn, start early and try as many different things to see what works best for you. There are many options when it comes to learning Korean.

5. How do I pay my bills in Korea? Do I mail a cheque or do I have to go to the bank?

You can have lots of bills automatically deducted from you account or you can just pay them manually yourself online or at the bank. Easy. I've never mailed any bill related stuff.

As a side note, banks are everywhere, so going to the bank is a lot easier than in Canada.

6. What is the cost of living like in Korea? I heard that the electric bill is like $15 a month. Is this a typical electric bill, what about other bills like the water bill and heat?

Other things are too expensive to make up for cheap utilities. My power bill was 20k, water 4k, gas 40k. In the winter my gas bill goes as high as like 70k and in the summer my power bill goes up to like 90k?

7. I heard that a lot of people that have gone to Korea really love the food was this true for you? What were some of your favourite dishes?

Um it's ok. I shop at Costco too but it's nice to have Korean as an option. What I don't like is any of the soups...

Dalkgalbi (or another of it's various spellings). If you're interested in Korean food and you're in Hamilton there are several Korean Restaurants... try Barami Bunei (not pronounced the way it looks) for decent food (I was at home a few weeks ago and the food there was pretty similar to what I've had here in Seoul).

8. How easy is it to find Western food in supermarkets and as far as fast food goes in Korea?

Most of it is overpriced. Not that easy per se. Go to Costco or something. There isn't a Wendys or Taco Bell here. Nasty McDs and Burger King are common.


KFC, Dunkin Donuts as well and the occasional Subway, Pizza Hut and Dominos.

9. I don�t mean any disrespect with this next question but, how thick is the average Korean accent and what is the best way to hear someone through the accent?

Seoul accent is standard. Busan is fun to listen to and you get the hang of it kind of. And I don't get the 2nd part of your Q.

10. What is the best way to make sure I am understandable since I will have a Canadian accent?

Imitate a Korean accent as best you can....

Canadian accent? I think you'll be fine. As long as you can make gestures with your hands that is...

11. What kind of entertainment is there in Korea? Movies, sports, music concerts, video games?

Yes. Get here and see.


12. What is the size of a typical apartment that you get while doing ESL in Korea?

Results may vary. Widely. One room hole on up. Ask your school.

13. How do I go about washing my clothes? I assume self serve laundry mats?

Get a washing machine. Laundry mats are few and far between here.

Most apartments that I've seen (really only the ones of the English teachers at my school) have washing machines either in the apartments or nearby in their buildings.

14. Are the washrooms similar to the ones in North America as in a private bathroom with a shower and a toilet and a sink?

Sometimes they are smaller and you can wash the whole bathroom with the shower head. Most are NA style... like in an officetel.

Some subway stops and other public washrooms have squat toilets, but usually there are western ones as well.

15. What are the grocery stores like? Is it more like an open market or is it more like the closed in buildings you find in Canada?

Both are plentiful. But the indoor grocery stores here suck compared to NA, imo.


16. Can I drive a car with my G license?

Dunno sry.


Not with that alone. You'd need to get an international driver's license. I think all you have to do is fill out a form and pay some money. No test. G license should be good I'd think. Not sure if you'd want to drive here though (you'll know what I mean when you come).

17. Are the road signs pictorial or do they use words?

Arrows and words and stuff. You can figure them out.


18. What are the medical facilities like? Are they walk-in clinics and family practitioners or just hospitals?

All of the above... I prefer goin to the big and well known hospitals because they seem to be cleaner.

19. I am a 46 for my pants size and a 12.5 for my shoe size so how easy is it to find pants and shoes in my size in Korea?

Difficult. Search and/or order online.

20. As far as needed a BA goes does it matter that I have a three year degree and not a four year degree?

Whoops um search around. You need a BA, but some nations give out BAs after just 3 years right...?

I think that'd be good enough. I'm not completely sure though.

Hope I added something worthwhile to the answers...
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Juregen



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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe sticky this stuff?
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NightSky



Joined: 19 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 4:17 pm    Post subject: Re: my list of questions about korea Reply with quote

1.transportation system? yes
2. apartment with other people teaching ESL? maybe
3. easy to navigate? signs posted in English/Korean? sometimes
4. How hard is Korean to learn? compared to what?
5. How do I pay my bills in Korea? bank
6. What is the cost of living like in Korea? $$$
7. really love the food? no
8. easy to find Western food? no
9. how thick is the average Korean accent? thick
10. best way to make sure I am understandable? learn Korean
11. movies, sports, music concerts, video games? yes
12. size of a typical apartment? small
13. washing my clothes? washing machine
14. washrooms similar to NA? no
15. what are the grocery stores like? bad
16. Can I drive a car with my G license? yes
17. Are the road signs pictorial or do they use words? both
18. walk-in clinics and family practitioners/hospitals? yes
19. 46 pants size/12.5 shoe size? no
20. a three year degree and not a four year degree? maybe


hth
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Otherside



Joined: 06 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 4:27 pm    Post subject: Re: my list of questions about korea Reply with quote

Let me help you out here.

gbeattie wrote:
Hello Everyone

My name is Graeme and I just got my B.Sc. in Physical Science from McMaster University. In order to pay off my considerable student loans I have decided to teach ESL in korea. I am going to do the 120 hour course that Trinity is offering to get some TESOL training and then get a job in Korea and see how my first year goes. If I like it then I plan on doing the four week CELTA training and then doing some more ESL. Since I have never done ESL or been to Korea I have a list of questions that I was hoping that people wiser and more experienced than I could answer. Right now I am seriously considering a public school in Seoul since I have read that Korea tends to be an insular society and I figure the largest city would offer the highest chance of being Westernized.

1. What Kind of Transportation system is there in the cities and to get around the country?

Horse and cart. I hear they have motorised transportation in Seoul, but I haven't seen it.

2. Will I be in an apartment with other people teaching ESL and especially some people who speak Korean as well as English?

I can only speak from experience. In my first gig, I was sharing a 1 room apartment with a Pakistani family, fortunatly one of the sons spoke pretty good English, and we both have a love for cricket, so it was a good time. But you might be with Koreans, other Westerners or even in my case, Pakistani's. Roll of the dice

3. How easy is it to navigate around the cities? Are the signs posted in English as well as Korean?

Yes

4. How hard is Korean to learn well enough to be able to read street signs and other marking to allow me to get around a city? How easy is it to learn enough Korean to carry on a conversation with someone if I get lost and need help?

Easy to read, to speak..depends on you. Another poster on this board, Michaelambling, learned to speak fluent Korean in under 96 hours, but it took me a little longer

5. How do I pay my bills in Korea? Do I mail a cheque or do I have to go to the bank?

Preferably with cash, gold works too though.

6. What is the cost of living like in Korea? I heard that the electric bill is like $15 a month. Is this a typical electric bill, what about other bills like the water bill and heat?

[b]Are we talking US$, Can$, Zim$?


7. I heard that a lot of people that have gone to Korea really love the food was this true for you? What were some of your favourite dishes?

Bondeggi, ask for it by name

8. How easy is it to find Western food in supermarkets and as far as fast food goes in Korea?

Easy, I alternate between Burger King and KFC on weekedays, with TGIFs and Outback on the weekends

9. I don�t mean any disrespect with this next question but, how thick is the average Korean accent and what is the best way to hear someone through the accent?

Listen?

10. What is the best way to make sure I am understandable since I will have a Canadian accent?

Learn to speak a korean

11. What kind of entertainment is there in Korea? Movies, sports, music concerts, video games?

None of the above. But there is quite a lot of adult "entertainment" and drinking is a popular gig.

12. What is the size of a typical apartment that you get while doing ESL in Korea?

Small, 1 room, hopefully not shared

13. How do I go about washing my clothes? I assume self serve laundry mats?

Use the washing machine in your apartment

14. Are the washrooms similar to the ones in North America as in a private bathroom with a shower and a toilet and a sink?

What's a "washroom"? Either way, it's irrelevant, I've never been to North America.

15. What are the grocery stores like? Is it more like an open market or is it more like the closed in buildings you find in Canada?

Dunno, never been to Canada. Wanna tell me more about it?

16. Can I drive a car with my G license?

What's a G license

17. Are the road signs pictorial or do they use words?
Both, makes it really easy for the youngsters to drive. Did you know, there is no legal driving age in Korea.

18. What are the medical facilities like? Are they walk-in clinics and family practitioners or just hospitals?

Sorcery and snakeoil...with some oriental medicine thrown in

19. I am a 46 for my pants size and a 12.5 for my shoe size so how easy is it to find pants and shoes in my size in Korea?

If you are a girl...impossible.

20. As far as needed a BA goes does it matter that I have a three year degree and not a four year degree?

No


Thanks in advance

Anytime
Graeme
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll try to answer some...

1. What Kind of Transportation system is there in the cities and to get around the country?

Seoul has great public transportation - better than any Canadian city IMO.

2. Will I be in an apartment with other people teaching ESL and especially some people who speak Korean as well as English?

Hopefully you'll have your own Apt.

3. How easy is it to navigate around the cities? Are the signs posted in English as well as Korean?

Yes, a good number of the signs are in English.

4. How hard is Korean to learn well enough to be able to read street signs and other marking to allow me to get around a city? How easy is it to learn enough Korean to carry on a conversation with someone if I get lost and need help?

You can learn to read in under a week.

5. How do I pay my bills in Korea? Do I mail a cheque or do I have to go to the bank?

Banking, online, in person - all are possible.

6. What is the cost of living like in Korea? I heard that the electric bill is like $15 a month. Is this a typical electric bill, what about other bills like the water bill and heat?

Totally up to your spending habits.

7. I heard that a lot of people that have gone to Korea really love the food was this true for you? What were some of your favourite dishes?

Totally up to your tastes.

8. How easy is it to find Western food in supermarkets and as far as fast food goes in Korea?

Certain brands are tough to find, and the selection of western goods is often limited. Head to Costco here if you have a membership.

9. I don�t mean any disrespect with this next question but, how thick is the average Korean accent and what is the best way to hear someone through the accent?

It'll vary a lot.

10. What is the best way to make sure I am understandable since I will have a Canadian accent?

Speak clearly, and tilt towards over-enunciating every word.

11. What kind of entertainment is there in Korea? Movies, sports, music concerts, video games?

All of 'em.

12. What is the size of a typical apartment that you get while doing ESL in Korea?

1 bedroom

13. How do I go about washing my clothes? I assume self serve laundry mats?

You will probably have a washing machine in your Apt, but you'll have to hang dry.

14. Are the washrooms similar to the ones in North America as in a private bathroom with a shower and a toilet and a sink?

The newer ones are basically the same as 'back home'. Many thought have a central drain the the room and no bathtub - you'll just stand in the room and shower.

15. What are the grocery stores like? Is it more like an open market or is it more like the closed in buildings you find in Canada?

Similar to an 'Asian market' in Canada.

16. Can I drive a car with my G license?

You'll have to transfer it over to a Korean one.

17. Are the road signs pictorial or do they use words?

Mostly words. And hard to sue on occasion.

18. What are the medical facilities like? Are they walk-in clinics and family practitioners or just hospitals?

All

19. I am a 46 for my pants size and a 12.5 for my shoe size so how easy is it to find pants and shoes in my size in Korea?

Hard - bring what you'll need.

20. As far as needed a BA goes does it matter that I have a three year degree and not a four year degree?

This is new for me. I thought they were only allowing 4 year degrees. Perhaps something has changed.
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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good list of questions. However, it seems that you are coming to Korea with little classroom experience wanting to make enough money to pay off student loans.

Those seem to be ingredients for trouble.

It might be a good idea for you to spend a lot of time on this forum focusing on some of the 'bad Korea' posts. You need to prepare yourself.
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BS.Dos.



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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All my classes have been cancelled this week because of mid-terms, so I'll play too.

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1. What Kind of Transportation system is there in the cities and to get around the country?


As above. Taxis are plentiful and considerably cheaper than back home. I've never used local buses, but the intercity express ones are also very cheap and frequent. KTX, which runs between a few cities is also very reasonably priced, very frequent and very fast. Basically, the public transport over here is pretty good.

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2. Will I be in an apartment with other people teaching ESL and especially some people who speak Korean as well as English?


I wouldn't have thought so, but don't take that as gospel. I'm sure there are a few that thought they'd have a place of their won who've been bundled in with others. Basically, unlikely, but possible.

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3. How easy is it to navigate around the cities? Are the signs posted in English as well as Korean?


I've never driven over here, but there seems to be signs that incorporate both. If you are intending to drive, then you'll probably be too preoccupied with what's going on on the road to be worrying about missing your exit etc. Koreans' are, for the most part, pretty shocking drivers.

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4. How hard is Korean to learn well enough to be able to read street signs and other marking to allow me to get around a city? How easy is it to learn enough Korean to carry on a conversation with someone if I get lost and need help?


I can neither speak nor read Korean however, friends have told me that learning the Korean alphabet is pretty easy, so you should be able to understand street and shop signs pretty easily if you put some time in. As for speaking Korean, same again really, only I imagine it'll take longer.

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5. How do I pay my bills in Korea? Do I mail a cheque or do I have to go to the bank?


The banking system over here is both pretty good and efficient. You'll probably receive an apartment utility/fees bill each month and a gas/oil bill each month, which you simply take with you to the bank and pay it over the counter. Phone and internet can be paid by standing order/direct debit.

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6. What is the cost of living like in Korea? I heard that the electric bill is like $15 a month. Is this a typical electric bill, what about other bills like the water bill and heat?


Utility bills are pretty cheap, but you need to remember that Korea gets very cold in winter; so you need to watch your underfloor heating as bills can climb very high, very quickly; and very hot/humid in the Summer, so you'll need to watch your air con. My average bills are probably about 45,000 for my apartment fees and around 50/60,000 for my gas, although the gas spikes much higher in the winter months, but drops right off in the summer.

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7. I heard that a lot of people that have gone to Korea really love the food was this true for you? What were some of your favourite dishes?


Initially, no. However, I've since grown to love a lot of it. The soups are generally really good; quite flavourful and usually packed with vegatables. Pork is the primary source of protein, but expect lots of variations involving tofu/bean curd. The one thing that I don't generally like, is the seafood, especially seaweed soup that invariably gets dished up once every couple of weeks. Lots of FTs have tried dog, which gets served up in the summer months. I won't.

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8. How easy is it to find Western food in supermarkets and as far as fast food goes in Korea?


Assuming that you won't end up in Seoul like me. There are 'selected' lines in the supermarkets, but don't expect anything like what you'd find back home. The bigger supermarkets (Tesco Homeplus, Lotte, E Mart) will carry some staples, but you're going to be dissapointed if you start thinking you're going to be able to live as you did back home. For me, I get my family and GF to send packets of mixes and sauces (curries, casseroles and what not) and then just buy the rest of the ingredients I need. You'll get by, but you'll have to adapt your eating habits to some extent. Additionally, the big cities usually have a Costco, which is a bit of a life saver for FTs. Unfortunatley for me, my nearest store is about an hour a way, so it's really tough to lug big bags/boxes of shopping back. I pretty much get by though and haven't been to Costco for about 6-months now.

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9. I don�t mean any disrespect with this next question but, how thick is the average Korean accent and what is the best way to hear someone through the accent?


I don't speak Korean, so I'm not able to detect accents. All I hear is sounds punctuated by hada every now and again.

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10. What is the best way to make sure I am understandable since I will have a Canadian accent?


Of all the FTs over here (I'm English), I'd say Canucks speak much, much slower (a bit too slow if you ask me) and clearer than the other nationals, including those from the UK. You'll naturally adjust the pitch, tone and speed of your voice anyway, as the wall of blank faces will let you know when they don't have a clue what you're saying.

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11. What kind of entertainment is there in Korea? Movies, sports, music concerts, video games?


I'm out in the sticks, but there are plenty of modern movie theaters in Daegu/Masan if I need to go watch something, which I rarely do. Baseball seems very popular as does Football, but there's a conspicuous absence of open public spaces to play sports due to the fact that flat land is in such short supply over here. Concerts (I'm assuming you mean western artists?) are probably only really found in the big three; Seoul, Busan, Daegu, although Koreans' love to sing, so if you find you start enjoying Korean music, you'll probably be able to find a performance of some kind pretty much everywhere.

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12. What is the size of a typical apartment that you get while doing ESL in Korea?


This will vary, but as a rule of thumb, start preparing yourself to be in pretty basic digs. I've lucked out (3-bedrooms, plus all the bells and whistles), as have others I know. But, for the most part, I think a one bedroom studio type apartment is probably the norm. Basically, you get a room with a bed, sitting area and kitchenette with a small bathroom.

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13. How do I go about washing my clothes? I assume self serve laundry mats?


I think you'll more than likley get your own washing machine. Dry cleaners are very cheap though if you want to ge them to do all your cleaning and ironing although, that would be a bit excessive as you'll be able to do your own much cheaper.

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14. Are the washrooms similar to the ones in North America as in a private bathroom with a shower and a toilet and a sink?


You mean public washrooms? Assuming you do, then you're in for a big suprise. Probably my biggest gripe about Korea, is the really dirty and unhygenic toilets over here. They invariably stink, the plumbing can't seem to handle soiled toilet paper, so they have to put it in a little bin, which is just disgusting and there's usually neither soap or adaquate clean hand towels to dry your hands with. Basically, they're disgusting and you want to avoid them, if possible. The subway/train stations seem to be okay, but that's becasue the rail/subway network system is failry new. Find yourself in some of the crappy soviet style bus stations that are found in the smaller towns etc or, most of the small town restaurants then you're in for a surpise. Just make sure you check that there's adaquate ass paper in there first before you assume the Bangkok squat.

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15. What are the grocery stores like? Is it more like an open market or is it more like the closed in buildings you find in Canada?


Markets are pretty ubiquitous over here. Mostly produce and fish, but you'll also find pots and pans and other household items etc. The smaller Korean supermarkets are okay, although you'll be lucky if you find any western branded items. The produce sections are always good though; lots of peppers and leafy salad items. Don't expect as much variety of fruits though. Bascially, Korean supermarkets don't carry nearly as many lines as back home, but, and as mentioned above, you'll find the basics (chicken, potatoes etc). The bakeries over here are generally pretty poor. They seem to put too much sugar in their bread etc, which really ruins the taste.

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16. Can I drive a car with my G license?


I don't know what a G license is, but an FT buddy of mine (American) drives, but I don't know how difficult it is to drive legally. Judging by how elaborate bureaucratic systems are over here, I'd expect it to be uneccessarily complicated. Additionally, I wouldn't drive over here even if I were allowed to.

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17. Are the road signs pictorial or do they use words?


As I use the public transport, I don't really take that much notice of the road signs, but they're not as widespread as road signs back home and I think it's fair to say that for the most part, they seem to be worded rather than pictorial.

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18. What are the medical facilities like? Are they walk-in clinics and family practitioners or just hospitals?


I haven't had any medical problems in my 18-months out here, but there seems to be a good supply of chemists, clinics and hospitals.

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19. I am a 46 for my pants size and a 12.5 for my shoe size so how easy is it to find pants and shoes in my size in Korea?


46 around the waist? That's fairly large I take it given that I'm a 34 waist. Umm...yeah, you may struggle to find stuff, so pack plenty. As with shoes, I'm a European 8, so, but apart from a pair of trainers, I've not bought any shoes out here. As with your trousers though, that seems quite big, so you may have problems. Again, bring a few pairs with you.

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20. As far as needed a BA goes does it matter that I have a three year degree and not a four year degree?


No. Most UK FTs out here have 3-year degrees and it isn't a problem.

Apologies for any typos etc, only I can't be arsed to go back through and correct them.
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VanIslander



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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 5:37 pm    Post subject: Re: my list of questions about korea Reply with quote

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1. What Kind of Transportation system is there in the cities and to get around the country?

Don't worry about this, taxis are cheap and the subway goes everywhere in Seoul. And the bus system is good too.

Transportation between cities is also pretty good with trains and buses running pretty much everywhere.

Buses and taxis are cheap cheap cheap. The smaller the city the more practical taxis are as an option. Buses go everywhere within and between cities. This is one country where public transportation is well funded and well provided.

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2. Will I be in an apartment with other people teaching ESL and especially some people who speak Korean as well as English?

Maybe. But there's not that many foreigners around... it's up to your school and you of course. Ask them. You could look for your own place and live in amazing neighborhoods like Haebangcheon.

Who the heck knows? many have their own studio one room apartments. Some have roommates. But a roomie who speaks Korean? Less likely. You don't need Korean to function in this country. Plenty of 5-10 year ESL teachers here who have no problem functioning with a hundred or so words in the local language.

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3. How easy is it to navigate around the cities? Are the signs posted in English as well as Korean?

Easy for Seoul, thanks to the subway. I prefer buses now...
Some signs are in English. It would serve you well to learn how to read the basic Korean signs of course.

All over the country there are English signs, though the bigger the city the more often you see them. Don't worry! You don't need to read signs unless you're gonna drive, and then they're in English anyways, the road signs!

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4. How hard is Korean to learn well enough to be able to read street signs and other marking to allow me to get around a city? How easy is it to learn enough Korean to carry on a conversation with someone if I get lost and need help?

Anyone can learn a new language... just stick to it. Not exactly easy...

Learning to read Korean is a lot easier than it might seem at first. Many people can get a basic grasp of it in a day or two (of course it takes a while to understand how to read perfectly). As for carrying on a conversation, that will take a bit longer. It wouldn't be too difficult to memorize a few phrases (e.g. How do I get to...?, Where are the.....) but understanding the answers is a whole new ball game. If you want to learn, start early and try as many different things to see what works best for you. There are many options when it comes to learning Korean.

Again, don't worry. You don't NEED to learn Korean to function alright. But it helps. If you WANT to learn Korean, options will come up.

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5. How do I pay my bills in Korea? Do I mail a cheque or do I have to go to the bank?

You can have lots of bills automatically deducted from you account or you can just pay them manually yourself online or at the bank. Easy. I've never mailed any bill related stuff.

As a side note, banks are everywhere, so going to the bank is a lot easier than in Canada.

No cheques at all here. Some bills may be paid by your employer and - for sure - you'll be able to get help with that from your workplace. You aren't the first foreigner to come and certainly Koreans will help you do that. Just ask your boss or coworker and help will come.

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6. What is the cost of living like in Korea? I heard that the electric bill is like $15 a month. Is this a typical electric bill, what about other bills like the water bill and heat?

Other things are too expensive to make up for cheap utilities. My power bill was 20k, water 4k, gas 40k. In the winter my gas bill goes as high as like 70k and in the summer my power bill goes up to like 90k?

Supercheap compared to back home. Your pay will EASILY cover your expenses with extra left over for paying debts back home or whatever. The cost of living here is not a big issue. In fact, forget about it. Of all the issues you have to deal with, cost of living isn't even on the radar.

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7. I heard that a lot of people that have gone to Korea really love the food was this true for you? What were some of your favourite dishes?

Um it's ok. I shop at Costco too but it's nice to have Korean as an option. What I don't like is any of the soups...

Dalkgalbi (or another of it's various spellings). If you're interested in Korean food and you're in Hamilton there are several Korean Restaurants... try Barami Bunei (not pronounced the way it looks) for decent food (I was at home a few weeks ago and the food there was pretty similar to what I've had here in Seoul).

Love spicy food and find Korean food a little spicy, not much but not bad. Lots of nonspicy Korean dishes as well. Eating in Korean restaurants is cheap, so experiment, try everything. There are hundreds of dishes, really quite an extensive cuisine.

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8. How easy is it to find Western food in supermarkets and as far as fast food goes in Korea?

Most of it is overpriced. Not that easy per se. Go to Costco or something. There isn't a Wendys or Taco Bell here. Nasty McDs and Burger King are common.


KFC, Dunkin Donuts as well and the occasional Subway, Pizza Hut and Dominos.

A trip to Costco is possible from anywhere you'll be on the peninsula (except maybe rural Gangwando).

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9. I don�t mean any disrespect with this next question but, how thick is the average Korean accent and what is the best way to hear someone through the accent?

Seoul accent is standard. Busan is fun to listen to and you get the hang of it kind of. And I don't get the 2nd part of your Q.

ACCENTS VARY GREATLY. If I had a nickel everytime I've heard a foreigner or Korean comment on different accents between provinces...

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10. What is the best way to make sure I am understandable since I will have a Canadian accent?

Imitate a Korean accent as best you can....

Canadian accent? I think you'll be fine. As long as you can make gestures with your hands that is...

In speaking English? your accent is like American, which is learned in schools here.

In speaking Korean? *shrug*

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11. What kind of entertainment is there in Korea? Movies, sports, music concerts, video games?

Yes. Get here and see.

movie theaters and cheap DVDs widely available, video games as well... but if you want music concerts then Seoul is the place to go n weekends for them; live sports like baseball and soccer leagues is in plenty of cities.

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12. What is the size of a typical apartment that you get while doing ESL in Korea?

Results may vary. Widely. One room hole on up. Ask your school.

a bachelor's pad is common, but more is possible, though how much more is needed when one first comes over with minimum stuff?

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13. How do I go about washing my clothes? I assume self serve laundry mats?

Get a washing machine. Laundry mats are few and far between here.

Most apartments that I've seen (really only the ones of the English teachers at my school) have washing machines either in the apartments or nearby in their buildings.

your employer will provide a washing machine. i have never heard of a teacher here not having access to a washing machine in the same building - never seen a public laundromat in six plus years here either, though plenty of drycleaners for one's dress clothes

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14. Are the washrooms similar to the ones in North America as in a private bathroom with a shower and a toilet and a sink?

Sometimes they are smaller and you can wash the whole bathroom with the shower head. Most are NA style... like in an officetel.

Some subway stops and other public washrooms have squat toilets, but usually there are western ones as well.

every place i've had has a showerhead int he middle of the bathroom with a drain in the floor, no tub. of course a toilet and sink.

ask for a tub if you really want, though they tend to be pretty small and often means "officetels" a big city holeinthewall type miniapartment i've only seen in pictures, is less common in smaller cities

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15. What are the grocery stores like? Is it more like an open market or is it more like the closed in buildings you find in Canada?

Both are plentiful. But the indoor grocery stores here suck compared to NA, imo.

both indeed... love the outdoor markets for fresh fruit and veggies.. limited canned products but fresh is better anyways

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16. Can I drive a car with my G license?

Dunno sry.


Not with that alone. You'd need to get an international driver's license. I think all you have to do is fill out a form and pay some money. No test. G license should be good I'd think. Not sure if you'd want to drive here though (you'll know what I mean when you come).

just bring your canadian driver's licence and HAND IT OVER and in ten minutes you'll get a korean driver's licence. it's that easy! there's some agreement betwwen canada and korea that makes gettinga driver's licence super easy. no kidding. get an international driver's licence only if you wanna keep your copy of your canadian licence or if you wanna drive in thailand or japan on vacation while here.

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17. Are the road signs pictorial or do they use words?

Arrows and words and stuff. You can figure them out.

i cant read a single word of korean but i drive no problem - the signs are IN ENGLISH and korean, really, bilingual for traffic signs, and basic symbols for driving. much easier than i first thought it would be.

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18. What are the medical facilities like? Are they walk-in clinics and family practitioners or just hospitals?

All of the above... I prefer goin to the big and well known hospitals because they seem to be cleaner.

i dont like the medical service here. not expensive but not thorough, too confucian, expected to follow doctor's advice, to eager to inject needle medicine, too quick with diagnosis... really not first rate, but not bad... just not great

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19. I am a 46 for my pants size and a 12.5 for my shoe size so how easy is it to find pants and shoes in my size in Korea?

Difficult. Search and/or order online.

bring shoes galore but get tailor made pants in korea for $50 a pair! seriously, pants are easy to get here tailor made affordable and nice, but shoes... i'm size 12 and i find it nearly impossible to find my size, buy from overseas

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20. As far as needed a BA goes does it matter that I have a three year degree and not a four year degree?

Whoops um search around. You need a BA, but some nations give out BAs after just 3 years right...?

I think that'd be good enough. I'm not completely sure though.

i've met three teachers personally here on 3-year degrees, so it is possible.
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Location: Korea, the ass free zone

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

size 46 pants size? Shocked

seriously? like 10 over 36? Shocked

bring clothes. Lots and lots of clothes.

I'll be very curious (depending on your lifestyle here) whether that pant size goes down during your stay here.
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Joined: 13 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's been answered well already, but I'll do it too, just for fun.

1. What Kind of Transportation system is there in the cities and to get around the country?

Subway, buses, train. Subway runs at 900 won (approx. 80 cents) to start, and goes up to maybe 1600 won to cross Seoul. Buses run from 800 won to 2000 won for short to medium distances. Going across country might be about 20,000 or 30,000 won. Taxis only frenquent major roads, but they'll take you anywhere. They start at 1800 won, and go up from there. The system is very cheap, thorough, efficient, and crowded.

2. Will I be in an apartment with other people teaching ESL and especially some people who speak Korean as well as English?

Probably not. Most places try to not give you roommates. Even if you have a roommate, they'll be a foreigner who probably doesn't speak Korean. Someone at your school will likely be in charge of helping you (although they may resent that fact).

3. How easy is it to navigate around the cities? Are the signs posted in English as well as Korean?

If you're driving, it's going to really help to learn Korean writing at least. That's because if you're driving, you're really going to want a navigation system. Even though streets have names, no one uses them. So you're going to get directions like 'go to the *** subway station, and then take a right, drive 5 minutes past, and then take the small road next to the.....' In a new area, it'll confuse the crap out of you. Most signs list the English under the Korean. The subway says everything in English and Korean.

4. How hard is Korean to learn well enough to be able to read street signs and other marking to allow me to get around a city? How easy is it to learn enough Korean to carry on a conversation with someone if I get lost and need help?

Reading/Writing basics will take you between 2 and 20 hours to learn. Mastering reading requires a lot more than knowledge of the letters. It will be easy enough to learn how to ask for directions. It will be harder to understand the answers as there are a variety of ways to say any given thing. People usually point, however.

5. How do I pay my bills in Korea? Do I mail a cheque or do I have to go to the bank?

Most are done through a bank account with a special account number you send the money to. There are banks all over, and you can do most bills through the atm. Depending on your atm, it will all be in Korean. If you work at a public school, the bank will open after you arrive to work, and close before you go home. Banks aren't open on weekends. You'll either have to take time off or go on a holiday, or get someone else to do it for you. You can also get online accounts set up.

6. What is the cost of living like in Korea? I heard that the electric bill is like $15 a month. Is this a typical electric bill, what about other bills like the water bill and heat?

Typical winter bill. Typical summer bill might be 100 to 200 depending on your usage and location. It could be less or more. I like air conditioning... mine is higher. Food is cheap, unless you buy imported stuff. Koreans are great at living cheaply, as they prefer to save their money, or spend it on education or travel (or designer purses). If you do things like Koreans do, you can save a lot of money. If you try to live like you do in Canada, it may be a bit more expensive.

7. I heard that a lot of people that have gone to Korea really love the food was this true for you? What were some of your favourite dishes?

I don't like seafood. Koreans are surrounded on 3 sides by ocean and eat a lot of seafood. You can face two problems, your stomach can reject the severe change in diet... this is generally temporary and has nothing to do with liking or disliking food... for me, it took 6 months to overcome. This isn't just Korea, it happened to me when I lived in Eastern Europe, and it happened to my brothers when they went abroad to other countries too.... the other problem, is that you can dislike something particular that every Korean likes... perhaps seaweed.. which if it's at your table every day, can really start to bug you. Keep in mind that not every Korean likes every Korean food either. I like some things, and I don't like others. I've found that Korean food grows on me the longer I'm here.

8. How easy is it to find Western food in supermarkets and as far as fast food goes in Korea?

I've recently started finding tortillas in the stores... but it's hit or miss. I still have to go to Costco for sour cream. Cheddar cheese is in half the stores... milk, cereal, candy is the same as the west.. canned soup is almost impossible to find in a regular supermarket. I can find bread, but not sourdough bread. I can't find oatmeal outside of Costco. I found canned whipped cream, once, but it was 15 dollars a can. Open air markets and smaller markets typically stock only what Koreans normally buy. There is a lot of fast food in the major cities. There's less in the countryside. You may not find your favorite brand... for example, there's no Wendy's. But there's a lot. And McDonald's delivers.

9. I don�t mean any disrespect with this next question but, how thick is the average Korean accent and what is the best way to hear someone through the accent?

Well, your problem isn't going to be the thickness. It's going to be the fact that you don't know any words. And when you learn words, they still aren't going to be put together like English words are. The sounds all mix in different ways, and you have to learn how the sounds are mixed, not just the individual words.

To answer your question specifically: I've found that uneducated people tend to slur their words a lot more, but I can understand them just the same. Having said that, a recent movie came out about an old farmer and his cow, and apparently they had to add Korean subtitles to the movie to make sure everyone could understand him. But besides the normal differences between country-side and city, it's just normal stuff. The difference between Seoul and Jejudo country-side might be the difference between Scottish countryside and Australian English, though, many Koreans can't understand them, even.

10. What is the best way to make sure I am understandable since I will have a Canadian accent?

In English or Korean? In English, put pauses between main groups of words (especially after nouns), speak clearly, make your grammar simple, and cut out all slang. In Korean, learn their pronunciation rules, practice them for hundreds of hours.

11. What kind of entertainment is there in Korea? Movies, sports, music concerts, video games?

Everything. Concerts might be a little different, because half the country lives close enough to Seoul to go to a concert there if they wanted to. The major pop performers put on shows all the time. There's posters for all sorts of concerts and plays put up all over the place. Outside of major cities, there will be very few western style entertainment places. Major cities have everything. Demand for English video games are low... most people who want them steal them off the internet. It is impossible to buy them from your home country due to licensing agreements. There are places to find them, but it's hard. Or you can have someone from home send a used game.

12. What is the size of a typical apartment that you get while doing ESL in Korea?

You're looking at, in general, 250 square feet to 500 square feet. This obviously can vary tremendously. It's usually either a studio or a small one-bedroom apartment.

13. How do I go about washing my clothes? I assume self serve laundry mats?

Hopefully you have a washing machine. It'll probably be small, and front loading. You'll probably buy an A-frame rack to put your clothes on to dry. Perhaps a fan. Driers are rare, but they do exist. My washing machine is a washer/dryer combination. Dry cleaners are extremely common, and most should wash your clothes for you if you really want. Many will also do pickups and delivery from your house. In general, you're going to live in an apartment building of some sort, and the bottom level is going to have an assortment of shops, like a convenience store, internet cafe, dry cleaner, nail salon, etc. As there will be several apartment buildings near your house, one of them will have a dry cleaner.

14. Are the washrooms similar to the ones in North America as in a private bathroom with a shower and a toilet and a sink?

Most washrooms you'll see will have a shower that drains into a drain in the middle of the washroom. Sometimes the sink drains into the same drain. The walls and floor are tile. The setup allows you to clean your entire bathroom with your shower hose, but you may be showering literally in front of your bathroom sink and mirror. There's very few bathtubs. If Koreans want a bath, they go to the public bath house, of which there are many. Expensive apartments have western bathrooms.

15. What are the grocery stores like? Is it more like an open market or is it more like the closed in buildings you find in Canada?

They run the gamut. The big ones are much the same as the west, although they may not stock what you want them to. The small ones are often best, as they're walking distance from your house. They'll only stock normal Korean stuff, which will include milk, but maybe not bread. The open air markets sell traditional Korean food, cheap clothes, chinese imports, and various other things in a mishmash. There's often small supermarkets thrown into the mix.

16. Can I drive a car with my G license?

Don't know what a g license is. I had to turn in my american license, take a written test in English, and I got my Korean license. Get yourself an international license while you're in Canada. I think that will cover you. Find out for sure, though.

17. Are the road signs pictorial or do they use words?

Both. The system took me about a week to adjust to. For me, the drivers were fine. They follow their own rules here, but you just learn the local customs and you're fine. Be very, very cautious about jay-walkers here. People here literally put their head down and walk out in front of oncoming traffic, praying that everyone will stop as they jay-walk across the street. It isn't everyone. It isn't even most. But I have seen it numerous times. Drive slow and careful.

18. What are the medical facilities like? Are they walk-in clinics and family practitioners or just hospitals?

You have everything. I peronally go to a stomach specialist office near my house. I don't have stomach problems, but they take care of everything. Keep in mind that privacy isn't necessarily kept by medical professionals here. This is doubly true if your boss and the doctor are friends. If you have anything sensitive, you'll want to visit a doctor away from your house or school.

19. I am a 46 for my pants size and a 12.5 for my shoe size so how easy is it to find pants and shoes in my size in Korea?

I wear 36 pants, and I can find sizes ok, especially for slacks. 46 might be trouble. You'll probably be in the top 1% for sizes in Korea. Nobody makes sizes for the top 1%. Especially in Korea. That goes for your shoes, too. I went looking, and every shop said the largest size they stock is an American size 10. That's not quite true, but 12.5 may be a challenge.

20. As far as needed a BA goes does it matter that I have a three year degree and not a four year degree?

If it's a BA, it shouldn't matter. At least not for immigration. Immigration, and the public schools, require a 3 or 4 year bachelor's degree. As for individual director's preferences... who knows?
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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bogey666 wrote:
size 46 pants size? Shocked

seriously? like 10 over 36? Shocked

bring clothes. Lots and lots of clothes.

I'll be very curious (depending on your lifestyle here) whether that pant size goes down during your stay here.


I usually eat Korean food and when I came to Korea I was a size 44 in my waist. Now i'm a 39. That's after losing 45 pounds.

So my guess would be that if he/she changes his/her diet, then they will for sure lose weight. Assuming they are somewhat active.
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