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oldfatfarang



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: On the road to somewhere.

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 7:41 pm    Post subject: Ex President's Suicide Reply with quote

Where's all the posts about Korea's Ex President's suicide?
Anyone have any experience about this situation and/or Korea's mourning period?

I went shopping yesterday and Lotte Dept. store was closed (no signs - nothing). I suppose they were given time off for .mourning'.

And, my demonstration lesson today was 'postponed' - I tried to discuss why with my co-teachers - but they just said: "Some teachers 'hurt their backs in Friday's sports day." Hmmmmm.


Any info appreciated.
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Underwaterbob



Joined: 08 Jan 2005
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=156111

It was a hot topic for a day and a half. Seems no one much cares anymore.
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eIn07912



Joined: 06 Dec 2008
Location: seoul

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont even think there is a proper mourning period.

aside from every taxi radio and resteraunt tv being turned on the news all day saturday and sunday, u never would have guessed anything happened. the seoul i see is moving right along like every other normal day. perhaps some actually did hurt their backs. or that group of people took in more personally than others.

ive found there r 3 basic reactions:

-"he was crazy. im not glad he's dead. but im not really sad about it either"

-"he was so great, so kind, so wonderful. 2MB is a murderer! down with the system as we know it!"

-"who? oh yeah, the expresident. yeah i heard that..... did u talk to that girl again friday?"
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Bramble



Joined: 26 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ No one I've talked to has said anything like that. My co-worker said she wasn't a Roh supporter, but she thought the charges against him were overstated and that his death was really sad.

There were memorials going on at Seoul City Hall and Anyang City Hall the last time I was there.


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Maneki Neko



Joined: 15 May 2009

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 8:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Ex President's Suicide Reply with quote

oldfatfarang wrote:
Where's all the posts about Korea's Ex President's suicide?
Anyone have any experience about this situation and/or Korea's mourning period?

I went shopping yesterday and Lotte Dept. store was closed (no signs - nothing). I suppose they were given time off for .mourning'.

And, my demonstration lesson today was 'postponed' - I tried to discuss why with my co-teachers - but they just said: "Some teachers 'hurt their backs in Friday's sports day." Hmmmmm.


Any info appreciated.


All Lotte Stores are closed on the last Monday of the month - standard holiday.
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Robot_Teacher



Joined: 18 Feb 2009
Location: Robotting Around the World

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see it as highly irresponsible for an executive to comitt suicide for his corruptions being revealed. Since it's taken very seriously to lose face like this, maybe these big wigs should reconsider their dealings in accepting bribes and other scandalous dealings.

I feel bad for Korea, but don't feel bad for the man who jumped. He only escaped responsibility in the most sorry arse way only to leave the Korean people deeply saddened. This is called, "going out bad."
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skeeterses



Joined: 25 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm curious to see why the ex-President was so "ashamed" that he would jump off a cliff. Other than possibly getting sent to a country club jail for 6 months like other corrupt politicians and CEOs, its not like Roh was caught smoking meth with a male prostitute or molesting altar boys.
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CeleryMan



Joined: 12 Apr 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This dude ends his life over $6.4M?
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Noh pointed fingers at others and helped push people to suicide... now he had that come back to him.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robot_Teacher wrote:
I see it as highly irresponsible for an executive to comitt suicide for his corruptions being revealed.


Yeah, he should've learnt from Chun Doohwan and Roh Taewoo and said he already spent all the money so he couldn't pay it back.
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DeLaRed



Joined: 16 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CeleryMan wrote:
This dude ends his life over $6.4M?


apparently it was more the brother and the wife who were more the culprits behind it too.

$6.4m? That's nothing compared to the $30m plus that one of the previous Presidents took
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Smee



Joined: 24 Dec 2004
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have polling data handy, but Roh is being mourned here. Maybe it's because Jeollanam-do hates LMB with a passion, but many teachers had black yesterday, and the makeshift memorial outside one of Suncheon's old department stores was fairly active. There are memorials in nearly all the counties and cities.

I don't follow politics to care either way about the guy. The news was shocking, but not surprising, if that makes sense. When I first read the news in my reader I assumed some blogger prone to overstatement was making a joke based on the high suicide rate here and Roh's troubles. I don't like seeing anyone go out like that. However, his bad points aside, he did represent, as a lawyer and an upstart politician, something good for a long time.

A lot of people here are viewing this as kind of a martyrdom, and I suspect---given how prone people are to historical revisionism---he will emerge as a tragic hero, a dirty poltiician who followed dirtier ones, and who was taken down by those dirtier still.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My school's field trip scheduled for tomorrow afternoon has been cancelled because of the mourning period. The official announcement said students (all army officers) weren't supposed to do anything fun. They've been given the afternoon off instead. Confused

My co-worker has a theory that the Norks were behind the death. Subtheory 1: the aide is a Nork agent and gave the push to destabilize the government knowing people would be even more angry at LMB. Subtheory 2: Roh himself was a Nork agent and got the order to off himself. It was all to set the stage for the nuke test yesterday morning.

That's what she says.
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Xuanzang



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
My school's field trip scheduled for tomorrow afternoon has been cancelled because of the mourning period. The official announcement said students (all army officers) weren't supposed to do anything fun. They've been given the afternoon off instead. Confused



That's what she says.


They'll all have a drink or ten in Mr. Roh's honor. Imagine a subdued, even sombre pojang matcha of army guys. Wistfully remembering ex-President Roh and his exploits from 2002-2006.
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Ruthdes



Joined: 16 Oct 2008
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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eIn07912 wrote:
i dont even think there is a proper mourning period.

aside from every taxi radio and resteraunt tv being turned on the news all day saturday and sunday, u never would have guessed anything happened. the seoul i see is moving right along like every other normal day.


I dunno about yesterday or today, but I was downtown on Sunday and it was crazy. I was walking along Cheonggyecheon and the Gwanghwamun stairs were completely blocked off by police (a lot more than there usually are in that area). There was a line of people going from Cheonggyecheon along the street towards City Hall. At City Hall station, the line went into the station, and we were forced in too, as again, police were blocking off any other direction.

I didn't see how much further the line went as my friend and I decided to catch the subway, rather than see which way we could go once we got out the other end (if we could get through the crowds). I know that downtown can get pretty crowded on weekends, but I've never seen it like I saw it on Sunday.

I spoke to a student about this yesterday, and she said she thought that they were probably waiting to attend a memorial or something like that (but she wasn't sure). She was really upset about it, and said that she was a supporter of Roh and felt sad that it had ended like this.

Does anyone know exactly what these people were waiting for? I haven't been able to extract decisive answer out of any Korean I've asked about it.

edit: typo
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