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Kiwis: Is David Bain Guilty?
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SHANE02



Joined: 04 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 5:16 pm    Post subject: Kiwis: Is David Bain Guilty? Reply with quote

I remember when it happened because of what David Bain was wearing. I have read two books on the subject and I was struck by some of the really weird stuff going on in the family (the mother especially).

I think David is innocent, Robin did it.

What do you think?
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Rusty Shackleford



Joined: 08 May 2008

PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know because I've never studied the case. But the media fawning over him when he got bailed was fucking disgusting. Making a celebrity out of a suspected mass-murderer is sick.

Cambell and Sainsbury both need a bullet in their heads. Close-up and Cambell Live remind of "Bart's People" on that old Simpsons episode. It's all cat stuck up a tree stories and old ladies getting screwed over by the big bad power company. Lowest common denominator trash.
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SHANE02



Joined: 04 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the case is really interesting. I mean the way the house was kept (or rather unkempt). David was doing a paper run at that age seemed weird. The whole thing is freaky.

I haven't been home in a long time, so I don't know how the media has treated him. But I never trust cops, remember Arthur Alan Thomas?
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Horangi Munshin



Joined: 06 Apr 2003
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can trust the cops! To get someone convicted that is, not always the right person!

I think I read about someone else being recently released who served time but was later found innocent, they were refused compensation. Mind is a bit foggy on that though.

I think David might be innocent.
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SHANE02



Joined: 04 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Munshin,
yeah I heard about that too. The guy was done for rape, but DNA proved it wasn't him later. The Thomas Case was weird right? Someone fed the baby before the bodies were found.

The Bain case is getting interesting. They only have to prove resonable doubt, which I think they'll be able to.
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Horangi Munshin



Joined: 06 Apr 2003
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, something about kids being fed, the body dump, a shell casing maybe being a plant etc. Very strange case. I remember my teachers at school talking about it.
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Cheonmunka



Joined: 04 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems odd that a person (say the father) would go the whole hog, undergo an extreme violence and take his whole entire family, along with himself, and including even his lovely daughter(s?), but yet leave one behind.
If you are berserk enough to kill your wife, daughters (was there another son? I can't recall) surely you would also take the son. As a father myself I cannot see that one could find love for one child, yet have so much hate for the other that you would kill that child. That doesn't seem possible. If you have a little love, knowing it you'd still have a little more of it - you wouldn't have love here for one, but deadly hatred there for the other.
So, only two things in David's field is fate - fate that he was out doing his morning task. But, the father would have allowed for that surely, considering this was the biggest thing he was going to do in his life, surely he would have made it work.
Or, the father for some reason wanted someone to keep the family line ....
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SHANE02



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I hear what you are saying. I can't imagine how a father could bring himself to do in one of his own children, let alone 3.
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wormholes101



Joined: 11 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guilty.

And he will be found guilty again.
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Cheonmunka



Joined: 04 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Yes I hear what you are saying. I can't imagine how a father could bring himself to do in one of his own children, let alone 3.


It's more like, why would he do it to three then (purposely) leave one out?
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Horangi Munshin



Joined: 06 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheonmunka wrote:
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Yes I hear what you are saying. I can't imagine how a father could bring himself to do in one of his own children, let alone 3.


It's more like, why would he do it to three then (purposely) leave one out?


Insanity? People do some messed up things!
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SHANE02



Joined: 04 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe.

I think the mother was way "out there" if you know what I mean. I'd love to attend this trial.
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Cheonmunka



Joined: 04 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Five people! Parents and three siblings. Crikey Moses!

A police officer today said he (Bain) passed out at the doorway, yet when he did so his eyes didn't - like people do their eyes turn and the whites of their eyes appear - the officer described his appeared 'normal.' And, later an epileptic fit he appeared to be having was more like 'shivering.'

Can't condemn a person on their body attitude after a major trauma ... yet the police seemed to think it was odd.
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MissMaggie



Joined: 23 Jan 2009
Location: Jeju

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SHANE02 wrote:
Munshin,
yeah I heard about that too. The guy was done for rape, but DNA proved it wasn't him later. The Thomas Case was weird right? Someone fed the baby before the bodies were found.


What case is that?
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wormholes101



Joined: 11 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a friend who is an actor. He played the role of David in the TV documentary, A Question of Justice. In this documentary, they accessed the police files for the case and reconstructed the scenes, and even went as far as to construct a replica of the house.

After completing the filming, my friend seemed adamant that David was guilty and it was nigh on impossible for Robin to have done it.
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