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hugekebab



Joined: 05 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 1:28 am    Post subject: Manager saying I can't have my 2 weeks leave... Reply with quote

Hi,

The director for my university department is saying that because I have given my notice in on my contract for half way through the yearly term (according fully with the terms and conditions of that aforementioned contract) that I am no longer entitled to my holiday.

My holiday is 2 weeks pro rata.

I gave notice according to the set of conditions set out in my contract. I have made no breach of contract.

What can I do about it? Labour board?
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BigBuds



Joined: 15 Sep 2005
Location: Changwon

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Labor will cosider breaking contract early a breach of contract. I highly doubt they'll do anything for you.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is not a breach of contract. The OP complied with the terms of the contract itself.
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hugekebab



Joined: 05 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I gave notice according to the terms and conditions of the contract (give notice in April, leave after semester.) I am not in breach of contract; I actually agreed to stay longer than the notice required.
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frankly speaking



Joined: 23 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not sure exactly on your situation. However, if one works for an organization and gets two weeks a year and you resign before that year is up then you are not really entitled to two weeks. I would say that if you worked for 6 months that you are entitled to one of those weeks.

You are leaving anyway in a month, I assume, so what's the big deal of two weeks. You will have your time off when you leave. I personally, don't get into controversy over little things.

I wouldn't bother the labor board, I would examine my contract closely, and then build up a strong argument that the logic cannot be disputed. Then I would address my boss.
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hugekebab



Joined: 05 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I said 2 weeks pro rata so I have 4 weeks leave a year.

I wouldn't call two weeks leave a small matter, that's 1000000 won when converted into labour wage.

My boss doesn't respond to logical argument, only what suits the immediate staffing concerns.
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Breaking contracts with Korean employers is like breaking up with girlfriends back home: they'll do almost anything for you until you tell them you're ending the relationship.
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The Gipkik



Joined: 30 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How long have you worked at the university? What's your relationship with said boss and staff, students like? Why did you give notice?
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hugekebab



Joined: 05 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't break the contract, I followed the contractual guidelines to the letter. I didn't complete the full year cycle if that's what you meant.
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How much vacation time you should get, or whether or not you should receive cash compensation instead, depends on the wording of your contract. Pro rata computations are not always appropriate.

There are many common possibilities:

1) No paid vacation unless you work more than one full year.
2) You earn a certain amount of vacation time per month or per pay period.
3) You earn a certain amount of vacation time per pay period after some initial probationary type of delay.

In addition, it is reasonable that your employer cannot allow you to take vacation currently since you are being replaced and needed until your replacement arrives. In that case you should receive cash compensation in lieu of time off, if you have earned any paid vaction time under your contract.


Why not post the relevant sections of your contract. We can only speculate in the absence of facts.
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Sector7G



Joined: 24 May 2008

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been wondering about this question also, but my situation is slightly different.

I will be giving a two month notice in a few weeks. If they allow me to work out my notice, and they pretty much have to as I am the only western teacher here, the vacation time I will have already taken and been paid for will be commensurate with the time that I worked here. If you are figuring pro-rata that is. The thing is there is no mention of that in the contract. So I am wondering how they are going to view this.

I do have to admit that usually when you start a job in the states you don't get your first vacation until after the first year is up.


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hugekebab



Joined: 05 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ontheway wrote:
How much vacation time you should get, or whether or not you should receive cash compensation instead, depends on the wording of your contract. Pro rata computations are not always appropriate.

There are many common possibilities:

1) No paid vacation unless you work more than one full year.
2) You earn a certain amount of vacation time per month or per pay period.
3) You earn a certain amount of vacation time per pay period after some initial probationary type of delay.

In addition, it is reasonable that your employer cannot allow you to take vacation currently since you are being replaced and needed until your replacement arrives. In that case you should receive cash compensation in lieu of time off, if you have earned any paid vaction time under your contract.


Why not post the relevant sections of your contract. We can only speculate in the absence of facts.


'The professor is entitled to a maximum of 4 weeks vacation per year.'

There is not other mention of vacation in the contract. That is a single section of the contract.
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Tobias



Joined: 02 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

VanIslander wrote:
Breaking contracts with Korean employers is like breaking up with girlfriends back home: they'll do almost anything for you until you tell them you're ending the relationship.


Add: when they get tired of you they quit doing things for you.
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