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eirrehs



Joined: 04 Sep 2007
Location: korea

PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 2:00 am    Post subject: how much money do korean teachers make Reply with quote

i work for a Busan public school and my coteacher said i make more money than her. she has been a teacher for 10 years and i find this difficult to believe.

anyone know how much a teacher of ten years makes?
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xCustomx



Joined: 06 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 2:36 am    Post subject: Re: how much money do korean teachers make Reply with quote

eirrehs wrote:
i work for a Busan public school and my coteacher said i make more money than her. she has been a teacher for 10 years and i find this difficult to believe.

anyone know how much a teacher of ten years makes?


Why not ask her?
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Chet Wautlands



Joined: 11 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If she is not a permanent teacher, you might make more money than her. If you are getting paid closer to 2.7 instead of 2.0, you might be making more money than her. If you factor in your plane ticket and apartment, you might be making more money than her.

Chances are, though, you are not making more money than her. That having been said, your job is much better than hers.
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How much are teachers paid?
(Note: in equivalent USD converted using PPPs)
--Primary education--
Starting Salary: 30,528
Salary after 15 years experience: 52,666
Salary at the top of the scale: 84,262
Ratio of salary after 15 years of experience to GDP per capita: 2.29
--Secodary education--
Starting Salary: 30,405
Salary after 15 years experience: 52,543
Salary at the top of the scale: 84,139
Ratio of salary after 15 years of experience to GDP per capita: 2.28
Korea: Education at a Glance 2008: OECD Indicators--Indicator D3
Table D3.1. Teachers' salaries (2006)--Annual statutory teachers' salaries in public institutions at starting salary, after 15 years of experience and at the top of the scale by level of education, in equivalent USD converted using PPPs
Last updated: 04-Sep-2008
Excel File for download: http://ocde.p4.siteinternet.com/publications/doifiles/962008041P1G025.xls
Main Website address: http://www.oecd.org/document/9/0,3343,en_2649_39263238_41266761_1_1_1_1,00.html

Teachers' salaries -- From The Economist (Sep 27th 2007)
http://www.economist.com/markets/indicators/displaystory.cfm?story_id=9867632
Quote:
Teaching in Turkey and South Korea has a very high status, with earnings more than double the average income per head....

Teacher Labor Markets in Developed Countries: The Future of Children
http://www.futureofchildren.org/information2850/information_show.htm?doc_id=470797
image link: http://www.futureofchildren.org/doc_img/470797.gif

Teachers in Korea have guaranteed tenure until they reach the mandatory retirement age.
Attracting, Developing and Retaining Effective Teachers
Country Note: Korea
John Coolahan, Paulo Santiago, Rowena Phair and Akira Ninomiya
Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development, Directorate for Education, Education and Training Policy Division
http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/26/49/31690991.pdf

Elementary School Teacher: Annual Average Wage: 36,660,000 won
초등학교교사: 평균임금: 3666(만원)
http://know.work.go.kr/career_info_result.asp?search_code=04520&search_name=초등학교교사

Foreign Language Teacher: Annual Average Wage: 36,830,000 won
외국어교사: 평균임금: 3683(만원)
http://know.work.go.kr/career_info_result.asp?search_code=04518&search_name=외국어교사
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Robot_Teacher



Joined: 18 Feb 2009
Location: Robotting Around the World

PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely more than I make, but they deserve it as they have much more responsibility and many more hours of work than I have.
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frankly speaking



Joined: 23 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The worst part about being a Korean public teacher is that they can be relocated to other schools, and cannot work for a school more than 5 years. At least that is what I was told by a few colleagues. One woman I knew had to change schools and work almost 45 km away. Imagine building up a home and community and then 5 years later be relocated without a choice.

I think that Real Reality's figures are a little high compared to what a lot of the teachers I have worked with make. I know most elementary schools that I worked at the new teachers were making less than 2 million to start, more if they had masters.

As for the OP.

I wouldn't talk about salary with co-workers. If a colleague says that you make more than her/him. Ask how do they know? Your salary should be a private thing.

I personally, don't discuss salary with anyone. Try to be supportive and just say perhaps you should ask for a raise.
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agoodmouse



Joined: 20 Dec 2007
Location: Anyang

PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just remember: if someone asks your salary, be sure to make them answer first.
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes Korean teachers have to transfer every 5 years, but I believe they can choose which school they go to. At least some of the time, that is.

I also believe they can switch schools any time they choose if they feel things are not working out.
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I-am-me



Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Hermit Kingdom

PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korean teachers will always make more than foreign teachers. They also get many hidden perks we dont get such as tax breaks. They get a raise every year, foreign teachers get a raise until their 3-4th year. Dont expect much more after that.
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ED209



Joined: 17 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You mean all those new Korean teachers don't live rent free at their parents home?

I wish I had my mum to make me breakfast every morning.

Sometimes it sounds like apples and oranges. We are often dropped in a culture that is wholly alien to us and have to suffer the stress over the simplest things like bank accounts and cellphones. The KTs have to work longer hours, don't really have the option of fleeing Korea when things go bad, but have the comfort of already been adapted to the culture and workplace. They also have their family to support them.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Real Reality wrote:
How much are teachers paid?
(Note: in equivalent USD converted using PPPs)
--Primary education--
Starting Salary: 30,528
Salary after 15 years experience: 52,666
Salary at the top of the scale: 84,262
Ratio of salary after 15 years of experience to GDP per capita: 2.29
--Secodary education--
Starting Salary: 30,405
Salary after 15 years experience: 52,543
Salary at the top of the scale: 84,139
Ratio of salary after 15 years of experience to GDP per capita: 2.28
Korea: Education at a Glance 2008: OECD Indicators--Indicator D3
Table D3.1. Teachers' salaries (2006)--Annual statutory teachers' salaries in public institutions at starting salary, after 15 years of experience and at the top of the scale by level of education, in equivalent USD converted using PPPs
Last updated: 04-Sep-2008
Excel File for download: http://ocde.p4.siteinternet.com/publications/doifiles/962008041P1G025.xls
Main Website address: http://www.oecd.org/document/9/0,3343,en_2649_39263238_41266761_1_1_1_1,00.html


That's for tenured, not contract teachers. Yes, there are extra perks and bonuses for KTs (like getting paid extra for winter and summer break lessons) but we're also on a much lower tax rate than them - something we always forget when griping about the 'perks' we never see. Then there's that other little perk we get called free singles housing. Not to mention not having to do shit jobs around the school.

Put it this way, the majority of our Korean equivalents with our level of experience would proably be happy to swap deals with us. That said, if the teacher in Busan has been teaching for 10 years and is still making less than her FT who's only been here a year or two, she's probably not done very well for herself career-wise along the way.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ED209 wrote:
You mean all those new Korean teachers don't live rent free at their parents home?



If they can find a job within bus or subway distance of home. Like in Canada, the only first job they can get is often out in the sticks. We had a temp teacher from Busan this year who lived too far away to commute so the school arranged housing for her ... in the dorm with the girls. Her evening entertainment options consisted of surfing the web in the staff room or watching TV with the girls in the dorm. She's coming back next month as apparently our school is the best job she can get.
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Otherside



Joined: 06 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

frankly speaking wrote:

As for the OP.

I wouldn't talk about salary with co-workers. If a colleague says that you make more than her/him. Ask how do they know? Your salary should be a private thing.



How do they know? LOL. Maybe your co-teacher who has your contract in her filing cabinet decided to take a look. Or the fact that when you were renewing, and signing the contract you discussed which pay level you are on?

I've always believed that a salary is a private thing too. However, working in Korea (especially in the public system) there's no real point going through that whole facade. The fact is, if you tell me your qualifications (experience, major, TEFL cert, degree etc) and which program you work for, I can work out your salary out to the nearest 100,000 with a 95% accuracy. All the information, including contracts are out there online.

That being said, it's kind of liberating, you can feel free to discuss with colleagues and acquantances "personal" things such as age and salary which would normally be reserved only for close friends.
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sulperman



Joined: 14 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess everybody is talking about public schools....

At my current hagwon they make about 1.5 (obviously no housing), with the boss making 2.1 (less than me by far, including housing, plane, all that)

But at my first hellhole hagwon i got a look at the pay sheet.........oh my god......the most recent hire, who was lacking a bit in the English skills- my Korean was as good as her English- was making (drum roll please).......850,000 a month! And working 10,11 hour days (well, being present for that time) to prove her worth to the awful boss. God, that place sucked.
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smaulik



Joined: 01 May 2009

PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait, are we talking about teaching in general, or teaching English? Because I can understand if they pay more for native English speakers--high demand, low supply--versus regular Korean public school teachers.
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