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JMann923



Joined: 27 May 2009

PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 12:01 pm    Post subject: Being Big in Korea Reply with quote

So I am leaving for Korea in a few weeks and will be living and working in Ansan. Now I have already been discriminated on due to my size when I was looking for a job. Not only am I 6'5 but i am a pretty "husky" guy. So if there is anyone out there that has any insight into being big in korea I would appreciate it. What I am told is that I will get a lot of stares and points and the kids will call me names like piggy. Is there anything else i should prepare myself for? Am I gonna find it hard to fit in places?
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tob55



Joined: 29 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 12:29 pm    Post subject: Depends Reply with quote

You will have to put up with the stares and the comments. I have dealt with it for 5 years. It all has to do with the Koreans being quite blunt with their comments. I have lost over 150 lbs since coming to Korea, but I am still overweight, and I hear the comments all the time. Blow it off and ignore the people. You can fit in places and people will not necessarily "warm up" to you, but there are some hefty Koreans these days, so I hear the comments much less. Also, it depends on where you are located. I tend to hear fewer comments in Seoul when going their for business. However, in my rural area where I live and work, the comments continue. It is social ignorance regarding what is proper, and I don't take offense at it much anymore unless someone just jumps in my face and makes a point of saying I'm fat. Usually the old ladies sit around and when I walk by they comment. Nothing to worry about unless you are the kind of person who wears their feelings on their sleeve. Good luck.
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phoneboothface



Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ansan is nice, I hope you like it.

tob55s post was spot on. I lost weight after I got here too. Fitting in... well... some aisles in stores are a squeeze and the gimbap places aren't exactly the most roomy establishments but I make it work so you can too.

Or maybe you meant fitting in socially? I don't really do that anywhere so can't help you there. Laughing
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PeteJB



Joined: 06 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always considered myself to be pretty skinny and have always been selfconcious about that. I am tall yet have a naturally small frame. Coming to Korea, my feelings are no different despite being more of a normal size here. But TBH you will get stares NO matter what your weight is, so it really makes no difference in the long run.
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Whitey Otez



Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: The suburbs of Seoul

PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 7:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Depends Reply with quote

tob55 wrote:
I don't take offense at it much anymore unless someone just jumps in my face and makes a point of saying I'm fat.


That's pretty much the thing, there. Some of your kids will do this to you every day until they quit studying. They are fairly persistent in their harassment, and once in a great while it will get under your skin.

My favorite "you're fat" moment came from my rather unassuming boss, who bought me a shirt that was exactly one size too small. He told me to give it away if I didn't think I'd ever get down to that size.
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Hyeon Een



Joined: 24 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Play some basketball or (American) Football. You'll probably be the best on the team.

Another good thing: Korean girls love big guys. Don't worry, you won't break them.
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Johnny_Bravo



Joined: 27 May 2009
Location: R.O.K.

PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hyeon Een wrote:
Play some basketball or (American) Football. You'll probably be the best on the team.

Another good thing: Korean girls love big guys. Don't worry, you won't break them.


I'll take exceptions with both statements without commenting on the breakage part. I'll call BS on everything else though.

clearly the OP is quite tall, but his focus with usage of words like piggy means his concern on bigness is more along the horizontal, rather than vertical lines.

There's good news and bad news. The bad news is that your fears may come true, the good news is that it may not be as bad as you fear. People's concern with appearance is always the biggest before they get to know you and or talk to you. Once you're found likeable, there will be less focus on your appearance. If you're found to be unlikeable, it becomes an easier thing to pile on against you.

The other piece of good news I can bring is that if you're so inclined, Korea can be a fantastic place to take control of your life and diet and bring yourself down to within a standard deviation of your desireable weight, without having to resort to "positive" euphemisms for fatness, like husky for males , curvy for females, etc.

Simply the sheer lack of the typical North American sit on your ass and drive everywhere culture, as well as the lack of the super sized fat laden portions of food means you should start shedding the pounds almost immediately.

But bring clothes. Lots of them.
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kiknkorea



Joined: 16 May 2008

PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ Agreed. AND plenty of shoes! If you wear bigger than a size 11 (280mm), and I would imagine you do, bring over as many pairs as you will need for the year. Athletic shoes, dress, sandals, boots, etc.

It's not impossible to find big shoes here, but it's far more trouble than it's worth. Bring your own.
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JMann923



Joined: 27 May 2009

PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I appreciate all the replies, and I actually feel better about it then I did before. It probably won't get to me to much I think with the name calling because I am a special ed teacher. I worked in a therapeutic school for sever emotional behavioral disorders and they called me much worse.

I hope to lose weight and am looking forward to not having a car and traveling around my city and the country. I am also a pretty social and like able guy and was actually talking about how I think that will help people get past it. So thats something I am glad to hear.

I already figured I needed a ton of clothes and shoes. I am a size 16 shoe so it isn't easy to find shoes here.

Any good tips on losing weight? What kinda of places should I avoid? Other than the american grease pits like mcdonalds and KFC which you will not catch me in EVER! I love Korean food!
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hogwonguy1979



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: the racoon den

PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm 6' 4" and for the life of me here i wish i was 4" shorter, you will be considered a freakazoid here so get used to it. they will point and ask "how tall are you etc". One nice thing is when i get in a cab many cab drivers will push the front seat up for me. Its not your waist size that will be a problem getting pants in places like itaewon it will be the length. I have the same problem getting 36" inseam pants in the states that i do here

size 16 shoes? forget about getting them here though you can get dress shoes custom made for around 100k. athletic shoes are a pain I'm a size 12 and its hard to get new running shoes even in itaewon. I'd look into ordering online and having them shipped here if its under $150 no duty is paid
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bundangbabo



Joined: 01 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a big bloke - you'll get comments from adjosshis in the gym or on the subway (if you decide to join one) but just tell them to get stuffed... the kids (if they like you...) will never mention it - my weight has probably been mentioned around 10 times by the 1500 students in the 12 months I have taught in the middle school I am currently at... In fact, the teachers have probably been more opinionated on the subject...

As for Korean women - hey - some like a big bloke - I have had stares, attention, valentines gifts etc and these girls have been nice looking - mind you - I do a lot of weights and am not exactly a blob so it all depends who you are and how you carry your weight.
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Johnny_Bravo



Joined: 27 May 2009
Location: R.O.K.

PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JMann923 wrote:
I appreciate all the replies, and I actually feel better about it then I did before. It probably won't get to me to much I think with the name calling because I am a special ed teacher. I worked in a therapeutic school for sever emotional behavioral disorders and they called me much worse.

I hope to lose weight and am looking forward to not having a car and traveling around my city and the country. I am also a pretty social and like able guy and was actually talking about how I think that will help people get past it. So thats something I am glad to hear.

I already figured I needed a ton of clothes and shoes. I am a size 16 shoe so it isn't easy to find shoes here.

Any good tips on losing weight? What kinda of places should I avoid? Other than the american grease pits like mcdonalds and KFC which you will not catch me in EVER! I love Korean food!


if you're sociable and likeable, you've won half if not more of the battle.
There will be elements and islands of hate/dislike, etc but it sounds like you know how to deal with that kind of stuff. Besides, from those people your weight/size will merely be a convenient excuse for hating the "dirty foreigner" in the first place.

losing weight - don't know what kind of athletic if any background you havem, but you can start out with conventional basics. Move as much as you can and sit as little as you can. Don't eat crap, avoid things fried and exercise portion control and you'll be well on your way. There will likely be gyms around if you're interested in that. I'd recommend it - I'd recommend lifting some weights if for nothing else just to boost your resting metabolic rate.

lots of stuff online if you want to get serious. Avoid gimmicks though (like the cabbage soup diet, etc in fact avoid any special "diet" period.
DO follow Atkins' advice in that you want to cut down on the carbs as much as you can, and or substitute the highly glycemic ones for low glycemic ones.

this means despite Korean insistence that you pile the sticky rice white on your plate my recommendation would be to only eat a little or avoid.

otherwise, Korean food tends to be very healthy, but avoid fried and unfortunately, their main meat is pork which is the worst of all meats.
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whiteshoes



Joined: 14 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JMann923 wrote:
I appreciate all the replies, and I actually feel better about it then I did before. It probably won't get to me to much I think with the name calling because I am a special ed teacher. I worked in a therapeutic school for sever emotional behavioral disorders and they called me much worse.

I hope to lose weight and am looking forward to not having a car and traveling around my city and the country. I am also a pretty social and like able guy and was actually talking about how I think that will help people get past it. So thats something I am glad to hear.

I already figured I needed a ton of clothes and shoes. I am a size 16 shoe so it isn't easy to find shoes here.

Any good tips on losing weight? What kinda of places should I avoid? Other than the american grease pits like mcdonalds and KFC which you will not catch me in EVER! I love Korean food!


Actually one of the biggest problems I have is with my feet. Koreans tend to not worry about personal space, and while I only wear size 12 shoes, many people don't notice them when hurrying past me. I've had to stop more than one adjumma from hitting the floor after tripping on my shoes. And yes, the kimbop joint will be small. But what you might not think of is the fact you will have no foot room. I step all over all kinds of crap.

As for losing weight, I think it depends on how much weight you need to lose. I'm still pretty overweight, but I've been losing steadily. How? I take the subway a lot and that requires going up and down a lot of stairs. When I first got here, it was pretty tough.

Also, while carbs may not be the best for you, I've make it a point to eat at a Korean joint every meal. Maybe once or twice a week I'll eat something non-korean. And, as you know, stay away from KFC and the like.
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dporter



Joined: 26 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

While living in China I lost about 60 lbs in 16 months do mostly to just being more active.

My job in the U.S. was as a desk jockey so getting in front of the classroom for 4 hours a day immediately made for more activity. I went from driving everywhere in the U.S. to walking 45 minutes to school in China. Standing on the subway, bike rides in the evening to go eat, all contributed I think.

The Chinese diet seems to be low on protein (but increasing) but high in vegetables and carbs. As long as your active I think the carbs take care of themselves.

Sadly, after returning to the U.S. the weight came back. I'm back to driving everywhere and sitting behind a desk. Meals are mostly pizza and the occasional salad if I get motivated. Hopefully, Korea will mirror China and I'll drop the weight again.

As a side note - it was rare for a student or person to mention my weight in China. Usually it was an indirect comment that meant no harm.
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Joe Boxer



Joined: 25 Dec 2007
Location: Bundang, South Korea

PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bundangbabo wrote:
I'm a big bloke - you'll get comments from adjosshis in the gym or on the subway (if you decide to join one)


What benefits are there to joining a subway? Smile

You should mention the weight you lost at the boxing gym! As you know, the weight just disappears. Speaking of my sport, (off topic for a sec) I broke my left hand two night ago, while sparring. Am typing this from the hospital (had hand surgery yesterday). For the record, that's 2 breaks for the left, and 5 for the right.

Hmm. Maybe boxing isn't the answer. Sad
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