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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:28 pm Post subject: Motivation! |
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I see motivation as a big issue in education overall.
There are a couple of dimensions that I use to differentiate between various types of motivations and the effort one has to go through.
Internal vs external motivation
In class motivation vs out of class motivation
I focus mostly on internal and in class motivation, because they are easier to manage.
What do you think? |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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I prefer the dynamic of instrumental vs. integrative motivation. While the latter's much preferable the former's sometimes about all that works in the Korean classroom. |
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 2:40 am Post subject: |
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Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
I prefer the dynamic of instrumental vs. integrative motivation. While the latter's much preferable the former's sometimes about all that works in the Korean classroom. |
You mean this?
http://iteslj.org/Articles/Norris-Motivation.html |
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ekul

Joined: 04 Mar 2009 Location: [Mod Edit]
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 2:44 am Post subject: |
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I didn't read your link because I want to sit happily in the illusion that YBS follows some kind of Chuck Norris motivational scheme for his students. |
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Insomnia
Joined: 17 May 2009 Location: koreanwikiproject.com
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 2:47 am Post subject: |
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What about motivation for some of the teachers here? I know a teacher who can't even make basic lesson plans. |
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anynag
Joined: 01 Jan 2009
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:53 am Post subject: |
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True motivation, as it were, can only come from within. If a person hasn't made up his or her mind to do something, then he or she won't follow through with any drive or commitment to the task(s) at hand, at least not for a significant duration. It's that simple. (Frankly, I find the whole external vs. internal motivation debate as it pertains to TESOL tedious and superfluous.)
External motivating factors, such as a desire for higher grades, seeking a promotion, avoiding punishment or scolding from one's parents, or saving face among one's peers, etc., hardly qualify as sustaining; said incentives are fleeting at best. The real challenge for any educator is to turn the external motivating factor(s) into an internal one. From that point forward, real learning can take place. |
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gregoriomills
Joined: 02 Mar 2009 Location: Busan, Korea
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:25 am Post subject: |
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Haha! This is hilarious! I actually did my Soci Statistics research project on extrinsic vs intrinsic motivation for students learning Spanish back home in uni 2 years ago. After studying it for a good while and coming to terms with my own motivation, I'm convinced that a healthy dose of each is optimum.
Having intrinsic motivations satisfied is what sets us apart from all other animals, but not ALL humans are capable of this . |
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gregoriomills
Joined: 02 Mar 2009 Location: Busan, Korea
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:25 am Post subject: |
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double post |
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