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2 Years Work = Permenant Employment?

 
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DJTwoTone



Joined: 11 Mar 2003
Location: Yangsan - I'm not sure where it is either

PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 9:55 pm    Post subject: 2 Years Work = Permenant Employment? Reply with quote

I've read in a few places that if a contract worker in Korea work for 2 years, then they need to be legally changed to permanent employees...

I believe that it only applies to big companies with more than 300 or so employees, but that would include people working for public schools, universities, and large centrally managed hogwon chains.

Has anyone ever thought of trying there luck at this?
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kasain



Joined: 25 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you have it wrong. This was a big issue back in 2007. Many companies used part time workers full time hours and also gave no benefits. So there were huge riots.

The law changed around then if a company had a part time worker for 2 years they had to become full time. Hence companies like home plus fired thousand opf employes who were there for 22 months.

There is no contract to get a visa this way. Then again why would you want to be stuck at the same school forever.
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Ramen



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kasain wrote:
There is no contract to get a visa this way. Then again why would you want to be stuck at the same school forever.


If you have certain F visa, it's possible.

It doesn't have to be at the same school. You could request to be transferred to other schools just like k-teachers.
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Horangi Munshin



Joined: 06 Apr 2003
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm that would be nice. I like my school.

I suppose there would be a downside though, some benefits taken away Flight for instance?

One of my co-teachers sounded surprised I had to renew each year. Maybe it is indeed possible.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Horangi Munshin wrote:
Hmm that would be nice. I like my school.

I suppose there would be a downside though, some benefits taken away Flight for instance?

One of my co-teachers sounded surprised I had to renew each year. Maybe it is indeed possible.


I think if you have a good relationship with your school, then your employment would be considered permanent. In fact, it would be more permanent than Korean teachers, since you wouldn't have to deal with swtiching schools every 5 years.

I met a few teachers that have been at their schools for 8+ years. In fact, they are the only teacher to be at the school so long. Everyone else has moved on.

I remember talking to one such guy, and he said a new Principal tried to come in and change the way things were done (make him keep a seat warm during breaks, increase his workload, etc...).

The guy told the Principal "I'm been here 8 years. No, these things are not acceptable. I will quit, and you will have to explain to the district supervisor(coincidentally the Principal when we spent his first couple years at the school) the reasons why."

The new principal took back his proposed changes and the guy got to keep all his perks.


Not sure if 100% of what he said was true, but being at a school a long time does have its perks.

FYI, in Private schools (high/middle) the teachers don't have to transfer to new schools. My current principal taught at my school for like 20 years before becoming the VP, and finally the principal.
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Horangi Munshin



Joined: 06 Apr 2003
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, barring university limit kind of top down directives I think my position here is pretty set. Got a small but loyal core of parents in my parents class who'd be upset if I left (I think).

When I did multiple part-time jobs on verbal contracts alone, I could stay at those schools as long as I wanted, but decided to give public schools a go. I liked having no renewal time to wonder about if I'd get screwed over or not.

Always prepared for BS from past experiences.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 5:06 pm    Post subject: Re: 2 Years Work = Permenant Employment? Reply with quote

DJTwoTone wrote:
I've read in a few places that if a contract worker in Korea work for 2 years, then they need to be legally changed to permanent employees...

I believe that it only applies to big companies with more than 300 or so employees, but that would include people working for public schools, universities, and large centrally managed hogwon chains.

Has anyone ever thought of trying there luck at this?



This does not apply to contract workers on temporary work VISAS like the E-2. A temporary worker becoming permanent is for citizens ( maybe F-series holders would have a shot at this?).
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mmstyle



Joined: 17 Apr 2006
Location: wherever

PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting post, as I have been talking to a friend who teaches at uni here in Korea. She was told that they would not renew her contract because she has been there for 2 years. Because of 2007 legislation, if they want to renew her contract after 2 years, they are required by law to give her the benefits of a full time employee, which includes tenure. This particular university does not want to offer tenure to foreign employees. I was wondering if anyone else had run into a similar situation.

I am new to PS, so I have no idea how this legislation has any effect on my job in the future.
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