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Cordova



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:38 pm    Post subject: The Diversity Mess Reply with quote

The U.S. has ceased to be a land of equal opportunity; it is now a land that pursues equal outcome.

http://www.victorhanson.com/articles/hanson060809.html

June 8, 2009
The Diversity Mess
by Victor Davis Hanson
Tribune Media Services

U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder has scolded Americans for being "cowards" and not talking more about race. Now, Holder is getting that "dialogue" with the recent controversy surrounding President Obama's Supreme Court nominee, Sonia Sotomayor.

Most of the furor surrounds statements on race by Sotomayor herself: "I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life."

Sotomayor was clear enough. In a broad discussion about sex/race discrimination cases and their history, she stated that judges' ethnicity and gender make them better or worse at what they do.

Sotomayor also once complained that, "We (Latinos) have only 10 out of 147 active circuit court judges and 30 out of 587 active district court judges. Those numbers are grossly below our proportion of the population."

Aside from Sotomayor's notion that federal jobs should be parceled out on the basis of race, what exactly does she mean in an America that is intermarrying, integrating and assimilating as never before?

And why were the same people who now hold up Sotomayor's background as a qualification for the Supreme Court so quick, when George W. Bush was president, to rally to deny Miguel Estrada a court-of-appeals judgeship?

When Sotomayor invokes racial exceptionalism � and her supporters privilege her Latina status � we enter a morass in which there is no consistent logic about either who qualifies as a minority deserving of special state consideration or why any one group has claims over another.

Is minority status deserving of government redress defined by some sort of claim of membership in groups that suffered past bias inside the United States?

Hardly. The University of California system, for example, not so long ago worried about too many Asians on its campuses. Yet Japanese-Americans were once put in internment camps and Chinese immigrants denied civil rights. Had Asians lost their aggrieved status because per capita they were doing too well? And does that suggest that race ipso facto is no longer a hindrance to success?

Perhaps the logic of government-mandated diversity instead hinges not just on redressing historical discrimination, but also on considering present-day racial bias.

Again, that doesn't seem to be the case. Arab-Americans, for example, don't qualify for affirmative action, but they're hardly immune to discrimination here in the U.S.

In truth, in the 21st-century United States we don't know what race exactly is, or its exact role in our own success or failure, much less the reasons how and why it should count for special government consideration.

In a radically changing America, which immigrants from Mumbai, Muslim Arab-Americans, or destitute newcomers from Croatia will the government reward on the basis of their skin color, poverty, lack of English or religion?

Who will prove to have the greater case for victimhood and government redress � the half-African graduate of prep school or the poorer, darker Palestinian daughter of an immigrant 7-11 storeowner?

Or should we revert to class � giving the child of the single alcoholic unemployed father preference over the daughter of a hardworking immigrant who built a successful business by working seven days a week?

To be the most fair, should we update rules of the Old Confederacy and have racial statisticians examine our DNA to see whether we were really are 1/16 this or that federally approved race? Sounds crazy, but sometimes that's where it feels like we're heading.

Just as the government now both regulates and runs General Motors, so it decides who is victimized and who is not, and then rewards (and therefore punishes) on the basis of race.

But again, 21st-century America is intermarried and mixed up. People are complex individuals, not cookie-cutter representations of their supposed tribe. The Balkans, Iraq and Rwanda are not our models.

So, can we imagine Ivy League-educated Justice Sonia Sotomayor simply as a judge, no more, no less? Can the Senate, in its confirmation hearings for Sotomayor, vote up or down on her written record and expressed philosophy of jurisprudence?

They ought to leave it at that � and only that.

�2009 Tribune Media Services
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Sergio Stefanuto



Joined: 14 May 2009
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sotomayor also once complained that, "We (Latinos) have only 10 out of 147 active circuit court judges and 30 out of 587 active district court judges. Those numbers are grossly below our proportion of the population."


Perplexing,

Latino-Americans are 15% of the population, therefore 15% of circuit court judges should be Latino Americans?

What color are the trees on leftwing fallacy island?
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mises



Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More fun still, is that many Hispanics are just boring ol' white people:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanic_and_Latino_Americans#Race
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A majority of Hispanic and Latino Americans are white, per both sets of government estimates: 54% are white per the American Community Survey,[9] while the ratio rises to 92% in the Population Estimates Program, which are the official estimates.[8] The much larger official figure is due to the absence of the Some other race category from these estimates, which instead reallocate that category among the five standard, minimum, single-race categories, mostly the white category.[46] The complete 2007 Hispanic or Latino racial breakdown is as follows:[8][9] White 92% (official) or 54% (ACS); Black or African American 3.8% (official) or 1.5% (ACS); American Indian and Alaska Native 1.4% (official) or 0.8% (ACS); Asian 0.6% (official) or 0.3% (ACS); Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander 0.3% (official) or 0.07% (ACS); Some other race 40% (ACS only; not an official race); Two or more races 0.6% (official) or 3.8% (ACS).



Anyways, as the US is headed towards minority-majority, affirmative action becomes extremely problematic.
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RufusW



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think this writer fundamentally misunderstood what role race/gender plays with regards to judging. The writer understood it as attempting to give one race an advantage, whereas it's about a balanced court that consequently judges more fairly. Anyway, this was hashed out in a previous thread.
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Cordova



Joined: 14 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyways, as the US is headed towards minority-majority, affirmative action becomes extremely problematic.

Already is. Try getting a Federal job in non-critical area ex- (physicians MD, DDS,or Scientific field Physicist, Geologist, Biologist) It won't happen.

The U.S. is becoming a facade- they present as a multiculturual Potempkin Villiage, but anyone who has attended a U.S "university" knows the truth.

Inordinate amounts of resources(race based scholorships, raced based grants) are thrown at underperforming minorities so that the board of regents can say "at least we tried."

I can remember at Cal State Fullerton during Freshman year (I was also working full-time at Home Depot) I took Japanese 101 and the only people complaining about the speed of the class were black students. (One said Cal-State Fullerton was "raciss" because she couldn't get Katakana)
By second year Japanese, no black classmates.
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Sergio Stefanuto



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cordova wrote:
Anyways, as the US is headed towards minority-majority, affirmative action becomes extremely problematic.

Already is. Try getting a Federal job in non-critical area ex- (physicians MD, DDS,or Scientific field Physicist, Geologist, Biologist) It won't happen.

The U.S. is becoming a facade- they present as a multiculturual Potempkin Villiage, but anyone who has attended a U.S "university" knows the truth.

Inordinate amounts of resources(race based scholorships, raced based grants) are thrown at underperforming minorities so that the board of regents can say "at least we tried."

I can remember at Cal State Fullerton during Freshman year (I was also working full-time at Home Depot) I took Japanese 101 and the only people complaining about the speed of the class were black students. (One said Cal-State Fullerton was "raciss" because she couldn't get Katakana)
By second year Japanese, no black classmates.


Well, your final paragraph sounds like a biased sample, but nevertheless, Thomas Sowell, a black economist, wrote an outstanding chapter on race fallacies in Economic Facts and Fallacies and, also, from Wikipedia, 'Overall, Asian Americans have the lowest poverty rate and the highest educational attainment levels, median household income, and median personal income of any racial demographic in the nation'.

The topic of race has been hijacked by the left and, as such, an honest discussion without fallacy and bluster is next to impossible. Race is, actually, completely and utterly irrelevant.
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