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What do you consider a strong reference letter?

 
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KoreanAmbition



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:24 am    Post subject: What do you consider a strong reference letter? Reply with quote

When applying for a university job, what kind of letter of recommendation would be considered a "strong" or "great" reference?


Or, in your opinion, are all references the same as long as you have some?
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cruisemonkey



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my opinion, one that's not written only in English on a cocktail napkin.
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KoreanAmbition



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you mean I should try to get a recommendation letter written in Korean?


Hmmm, I just asked for a letter.


Does it matter?
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cruisemonkey



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KoreanAmbition wrote:
Hmmm, I just asked for a letter.


Does it matter?

Yes - 'A', 'E', 'I', 'O' and you are vowels. Wink
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Konglishman



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cruisemonkey wrote:
KoreanAmbition wrote:
Hmmm, I just asked for a letter.


Does it matter?

Yes - 'A', 'E', 'I', 'O' and you are vowels. Wink


Don't forget "U".
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cruisemonkey



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Konglishman wrote:
Don't forget "U".

Who... me?
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Konglishman



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:21 am    Post subject: Re: What do you consider a strong reference letter? Reply with quote

KoreanAmbition wrote:
When applying for a university job, what kind of letter of recommendation would be considered a "strong" or "great" reference?


Or, in your opinion, are all references the same as long as you have some?


I think a letter from your previous academic adviser for your graduate degree, is often a good reference. Also, any place where you did some serious teaching such as another university, an international school, or a SAT prep hagwon would all be good places to obtain a strong reference letter.


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KoreanAmbition



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny guys... Smile

But really, should the reference letter in Korean?
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Konglishman



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cruisemonkey wrote:
Konglishman wrote:
Don't forget "U".

Who... me?


Oh, yes. I almost forgot. A strong reference letter can also be obtained from... Cruisemonkey. Laughing
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KoreanAmbition



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Konglishman,

Thanks, that helps.

What if I work in other departments at my university? Will it be helpful to get reference letters from those departments as well?

What I mean is...

Will a professor reference from a different department/college be helpful?
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cruisemonkey



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Konglishman wrote:
Oh, yes. I almost forgot. A strong reference letter can also be obtained from... Cruisemonkey. Laughing

I could make the English version so full of mistakes and bizarre platitudes that no K on a university hiring committee would ever suspect it was ever written by a 'non-Han'. Cool
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KoreanAmbition



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Konglishman,

Also, an academic reference is easy because my previous professors knew me.

However, current professors don't actually monitor my classes? They don't watch me teach.


My actual director knows less about my work than the people in the "other" departments that I work for.

I'm just not sure if that's normal or not. If it's normal, then I'll guess that it doesn't matter what department the person is from who provides my reference.
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Konglishman



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KoreanAmbition wrote:
Konglishman,

Thanks, that helps.

What if I work in other departments at my university? Will it be helpful to get reference letters from those departments as well?

What I mean is...

Will a professor reference from a different department/college be helpful?


Well, I personally think such a letter of reference would be highly weighted. For example, I once heard a story about someone, fresh out of undergraduate school, who got a job as a lab technician at Harvard. After working there for a year, he got a letter of recommendation from a professor and got admitted into a Ph.D program at Harvard.
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