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dvs
Joined: 10 Feb 2008 Location: seoul
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 5:00 pm Post subject: Apartments can go "Cha-Ching!" |
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Dear Teachers of English:
Some apartments can go "cha-ching." This is one of them.
It is very close to an elementary school and a high school known for producing the country's leaders. Most of the people in this neighborhood are here because they want their kids to have access to these schools. Right out the back door is I'Park, an apartment complex teeming with rich families.
Finding students could be as easy as riding the elevator or just walking around and smiling.
So, is this apartment more than most teachers pay? Yes.
Might it be worth it to an couple of enterprising souls? Yes.
Can you see pictures of the apartment with a cute dog providing scale? Yes.
http://seoul.craigslist.co.kr/apa/1179803563.html
email: tesslerdavis(at)hotmail(dot)com |
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crossmr

Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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I've seen this advertised here somewhere else already once. The forum is slow enough without you doubling up. |
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phoneboothface
Joined: 26 Apr 2009 Location: Korea
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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You shoulda put the dog in the bathroom to keep with the theme.
If I was rich I would move there. Sorry. |
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Robot_Teacher
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Location: Robotting Around the World
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 3:18 am Post subject: |
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Largest deposit I've ever seen on renting an apartment. That's like $40,000 US! At home we typically just pay a deposit equal to one months rent which is plenty hard enough. If we had huge deposits like Korea, no one could rent and we be living out of pup tents and cars. How in the world does an average Korean pay it? Guess they have to pull out a special key money loan from a bank. |
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crossmr

Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 3:48 am Post subject: |
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Robot_Teacher wrote: |
Largest deposit I've ever seen on renting an apartment. That's like $40,000 US! At home we typically just pay a deposit equal to one months rent which is plenty hard enough. If we had huge deposits like Korea, no one could rent and we be living out of pup tents and cars. How in the world does an average Korean pay it? Guess they have to pull out a special key money loan from a bank. |
Their parents generally pay for their first one after they get married, and they pay their parents back with their fancy new jobs.
As for it being expensive this one is yes.. but for many apartments you can put down a huge key and pay nothing. At the end of the rental period you get the key back. That utterly thumps any western rental scheme. Its a high buy in, but once you're in its much better off. |
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ChinaBoy
Joined: 17 Feb 2007
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 10:00 am Post subject: |
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crossmr wrote: |
As for it being expensive this one is yes.. but for many apartments you can put down a huge key and pay nothing. At the end of the rental period you get the key back. That utterly thumps any western rental scheme. Its a high buy in, but once you're in its much better off. |
Ah, the old "the rich get richer" while the poor are homeless trick. |
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Ryst Helmut

Joined: 26 Apr 2003 Location: In search of the elusive signature...
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 10:21 am Post subject: |
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Enjoy.
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lifeinkorea
Joined: 24 Jan 2009 Location: somewhere in China
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 10:30 am Post subject: |
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That utterly thumps any western rental scheme. Its a high buy in, but once you're in its much better off. |
That's pretty closed minded. That money is invested (along with the other tenants' money). Guess who gets the earnings from those investments. NOT YOU!!!
Why give the landlord the money when you could just invest it yourself and keep all the earnings.
Thinking you are saving money is nearsightedness and not realizing what they are doing with your money during that year while you are working at a job which only translates into 80% when you try to cash in . |
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dkoryo
Joined: 28 May 2008 Location: Seoul, Korea
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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lifeinkorea wrote: |
That's pretty closed minded. |
Yeah?
You're paying that much for a reason. It's not like you don't know what you can do with $40,000. You're making trade-offs. If one could get an apartment in an amazing location without having to pay $40,000, who wouldn't go for it. That's not being closed minded. Oh hey, let's save money by living in a box so we can invest this $100,000 instead! |
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phoneboothface
Joined: 26 Apr 2009 Location: Korea
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opportunity_cost
I didn't know this was even up for debate.
Even if you decided your money was safe with the landlord, you miss out on so many other chances to invest that money. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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The investment crowd always assumes two things.
1. You're so rich that you can afford to just throw all of this money into some investment yet still have money to live in some other apartment (and yes, some people don't want to cram their entire family into a 1-room).
2. The typical teacher has enough money to buy. I've got a clue for you: A typical 3 BR apartment in Seoul costs 400,000,000 and up. And you'll need 50 to 60 percent to buy, plus loan costs, interest, etc..
You got that kind of coin? Go for it, then... buy.
Of course, you can buy or rent a cheaper place, but again, how many teachers have the dough to do that?
By the way, a year ago one of you berated me for not investing in the stock market -- bragging about how you made XX% so far that year. Interestingly, that bullish talk stopped around last Fall. Sure, now it has a chance to go up again, but I wonder how much you've got to make up now?
In any case, my point is that you're assuming all investments will be positive. They're not. |
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kiwispanker
Joined: 10 Mar 2009
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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i'd rather invest my 50 million myself rather than have some landlord do it for me. living in a modest apartment with funds in the bank seems a lot more secure than living in a premium high-rise. furthermore, if i would desire teaching more students, it's as simple as putting up a small banner in those rich apartment buildings; you don't have to live in one.
p.s. i like riding elevators  |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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kiwispanker wrote: |
i'd rather invest my 50 million myself rather than have some landlord do it for me. living in a modest apartment with funds in the bank seems a lot more secure than living in a premium high-rise. furthermore, if i would desire teaching more students, it's as simple as putting up a small banner in those rich apartment buildings; you don't have to live in one.
p.s. i like riding elevators  |
Yeah, I'd much rather climb villa stairs or live in a basement with mold. The elevator in my place doesn't serve many other units, and it's fast. I rarely have to wait longer than for the elevator to get to my floor.
Maybe you just don't know how to find a good deal on a apartment?
Just because you can't afford something doesn't mean others can't. Don't be such a hater because you don't earn enough, or choose to live so miserly. |
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broken76
Joined: 27 Jan 2008
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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The money put down as a deposit will deduct 10% of your rent. Bigger the deposit lower the rent. So as far as opportunity costs go you'll need to find something with higher than 10% annual returns to equal the deposit which is difficult for the average person to do.
The main reason for the high deposit is that lease laws make it very difficult to evict someone so if someone misses rent payments it's taken out of the deposit. |
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movybuf

Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Location: Mokdong
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 1:47 am Post subject: |
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50 Million key money is NOTHING here. This place still charging 1.55 million a month for rent is insane, though. If I ever had enough money to buy a place here, I would market the rental toward foreigners, who shell out this kind of money on monthly rents.
50 million is the low end of key money if you want to move into an apartment, as opposed to a villa or officetel. 50 million could get you a relatively large villa at less than 500,000원. |
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