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F-4 Visa, family registry (Ho-Jeok) question

 
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Leafs42084



Joined: 31 May 2009

PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:10 am    Post subject: F-4 Visa, family registry (Ho-Jeok) question Reply with quote

Hi, I am applying or trying to apply for an F-4, and need some help.

This is my current situation:

- Born and raised in Canada
- Father is a Korean Citizen residing in Korea
- Mother is a Canadian citizen residing in Canada
- I believe I used to have double citizenship cause of my dad, but no longer. I am Just Canadian now
- Mother and father are divorced

I think this qualifies me to apply for an F-4 visa. But is my name supposed to be on my dad's family registry? Is it possible to renounce korean citizenship, and my name still be on the hojeok?

I have been to Korea several times since I was 18 years old, and I am a Korean male. I never got drafted into the army.... does that mean my name isnt on the family registry?

This whole thing is so confusing. And would my moms canadian passport and citizenship papers enough? or do I have to get her family's family registry as well? I asked my dad, and I think she is no longer on his as they are divorced

Thank you for any help, this thing is really confusing
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NaD00D00



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Gimpo

PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can't get the F-4 unless your Korean parent is an overseas Korean; they must renounce their Korean citizenship/nationality in order for you to be eligible.
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Leafs42084



Joined: 31 May 2009

PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my bad, I should have mentioned that my mom is korea, born and raised...

since then, she has renounced korean citizenship and become a canadian citizen.


Im more curious about myself being on the family registry
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licorice



Joined: 13 Mar 2009
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am Canadian and have an F4 visa here.

I believe that you don't have to be on the registry but your mom does.

So you need to get your mom's family registry since she is the Canadian citizen who renounced her Korean citizenship.

You also need your longform birth certificate which you can get online from the provincial government website. If you're from Ontario, the website is here: https://www.orgforms.gov.on.ca/eForms/start.do?lang=en and your mom needs her certificate of Canadian citizenship.

If you contact the Korean Consulate they can tell you all the information and documents you need. The information is also on their website: http://www.koreanconsulate.on.ca/en/?b_id=77&c_id=340&mnu=a02b03&start=2
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licorice



Joined: 13 Mar 2009
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And I just wanted to mention that you should bring your mother's family registry with you to Korea when you apply for your Alien Registration Card. I didn't bring it with me but they were okay with me faxing it over.

You also don't need to do your health/drug test for your ARC which will save you 100,000 won. Unfortunately I learned this after I paid for the health/drug test because my school was just doing it by the book for a regular E2 visa holder.

Also, when you go to the consulate in Toronto you are not required to do the interview (unless the rules have changed) so if you live far away it might be possible to send everything through the mail.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

licorice wrote:

You also don't need to do your health/drug test for your ARC which will save you 100,000 won. Unfortunately I learned this after I paid for the health/drug test because my school was just doing it by the book for a regular E2 visa holder.



However, you DO need health/drug test and CRC if you get a job at a Public School. SMOE, Gangnam, GEPIK, EPIK, and BMOE all require NSETS, regardless of VISA status, to get those checks done.

Hagwons are private businesses, so they can come up with their own method of screening for their employees.

Thought I'd throw that in, before some E2 Visa holders cry FOUL that licorice didn't need to go through those checks.
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bcoral99



Joined: 26 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

actually I believe u don't need a health check/drug test cause u are on a f4 visa and that is much different than an e2 visa. u are bascially a korean citizen so i dont believe it is necessary for health check/ drug test only because they asked me to do so but later found out it was not necessary because of my visa. i know u definitely need a crc though. hope this helps.
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pippenfan10



Joined: 22 May 2009

PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To get my f-4, I had to get a hojeok from both my mom and dad's families (your name cannot be on either of them). Both had to renounce their dual citizenship (becoming US citizens only). After that, it took two days to get.
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NaD00D00



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Gimpo

PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As the above poster said, I think they both have to renounce their citizenship.

I'm only half, so only my mom (since she was the Korean parent) had to. But my gyopo friend told me both his parents had to.
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licorice



Joined: 13 Mar 2009
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both my parents are Korean, but only my mom had to officially renounce her Korean citizenship and my dad didn't have to do anything. Maybe the rules are different for other countries, but for Canada you only need one parents' family registry.
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Leafs42084



Joined: 31 May 2009

PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pippenfan10 wrote:
To get my f-4, I had to get a hojeok from both my mom and dad's families (your name cannot be on either of them). Both had to renounce their dual citizenship (becoming US citizens only). After that, it took two days to get.


Please tell me if I have this correct. I can have both my parents on the registries (either mom or dad), as long as my mom has her documents where she renounced korean citizenship.

BUT, I CANNOT be on any of them? I dont see any reason why I would be on my moms, but I asked my dad, and he believes I am on it. Is this possible if ive been to korea multiple times within the last 7 years? (after 18 years old)

Like I mentioned above, I used to have dual citizenship but renounced the korean for Canadian. if I am on my dads registry, can I have it removed to get te F4 visa?
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