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Yesterday



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Land of the Morning DongChim (Kancho)

PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:22 am    Post subject: Public schools to start closing from Monday... Reply with quote

News hot of the ..... ?

My friend (a government official) has been in meetings all week at the Seoul Education Office...

The news is that Seoul Public schools will begin closing from Monday 2nd November for 1~2 weeks due to the flu virus...


and yes... I am fully aware that some Public schools in Seoul already closed one week ago...


At the moment the figure the government officials have set is set 10% ...

that means that if 10% of the students at a school have the flu - the school MUST close for a minimum of 10 days...

however the figures in at many school already show some schools have 12%.

so they must close from Monday.

Also when a school closes - the neighboring schools in that area MUST also close (because the students in that neighboring area are attending the same Hagwons)...


This shows how pathetic the situation is becoming.... close the public schools and yet PC bangs (where germs spread rapidly on keyboards and mouses's) are still open...

buses and subways (with all their windows closed) are still running...

I think some Public school teachers just wants days off with full salary paid...

If the government was serious they would close all pc bangs, and spray (disinfect) all buses and subway trains every hour or two...

and they would clean up the disgusting state of many public school bathrooms and classrooms...

and close hagwons also.... (which will never happen)...


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andrewchon



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder how other countries are handling this crisis.
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FistFace



Joined: 24 Mar 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow... what about hagwons? If they don't close, this is all for naught.
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Xuanzang



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hagwons are going to develop tele-conferencing classes or something like that. They`ll adapt and make a buck off this alleged PS closure.
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Gillian57



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My school will never close. It is a boarding school, so where would the students go, to their dorm? Too bad, too, because I could use a couple of week's vacation right now, before the weather turns cold.
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eIn07912



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My school closed for two days a week ago. All the kids were out, but they still made the teachers come in. For the whole day! I desk warmed for 8 hours Thursday and Friday. It was the worst two days of my life, haha.

10 bucks says if they close the schools, teachers will still have to show up.
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Xuanzang



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish this was an official memo. I would love to sleep in on what looks like the coldest day so far.
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Yesterday



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xuanzang wrote:
I wish this was an official memo. I would love to sleep in on what looks like the coldest day so far.


It kinda is official...

I usually get the news straight from the Government officers mouths - even before its printed in the media...


Morning (SMOE Gepik) public school teachers will still get paid...

many Hagwons/academies will stay open and even increase their classes to open morning classes (to make more profit)...


the teachers who will see time off and a reduction in their salaries are the "Afternoon-class Public school teachers" 1~5pm - because basically without a public school they have no 1~5pm classes...




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Rteacher



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Location: Western MA, USA

PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about privately-owned but publicly subsidized schools - which around 50% of all high schools and middle-schools in Korea are?

The only action my high school has taken so far (because of the upcoming national college entrance exam) is temporarily close the dormitory where some students lived. Now, those students commute like everyone else.

Absentee rates due to flu also seem much higher for senior class (grade 3) students than for the other grades - probably because they are under more stress.
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hochhasd



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yesterday wrote:
Xuanzang wrote:
I wish this was an official memo. I would love to sleep in on what looks like the coldest day so far.


It kinda is official...

I usually get the news straight from the Government officers mouths - even before its printed in the media...


Morning (SMOE Gepik) public school teachers will still get paid...

many Hagwons/academies will stay open and even increase their classes to open morning classes (to make more profit)...


the teachers who will see time off and a reduction in their salaries are the "Afternoon-class Public school teachers" 1~5pm - because basically without a public school they have no 1~5pm classes...



Where are you getting Gepik? My school only closed for one day,while some schools under Gepik will return Wednesday. It is not going to help things. What is going to happen if the kids are still sick when they open again? Will they close for another week,then another? Do you see where I am going here?Know no matter what I am going On Winter vacation.
Cool They will stay open for Winter camp Rolling Eyes



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cdninkorea



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eIn07912 wrote:
10 bucks says if they close the schools, teachers will still have to show up.


My girlfriend is a public school teacher, and she says that if her school closes, she'll have to come in anyway and have reduced winter vacation.
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English Matt



Joined: 12 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cdninkorea wrote:
eIn07912 wrote:
10 bucks says if they close the schools, teachers will still have to show up.


My girlfriend is a public school teacher, and she says that if her school closes, she'll have to come in anyway and have reduced winter vacation.


Knowing my school, I would guess that they would do something similar if push comes to shove. However, I don't understand what the point is really. The final exams will have come and gone by that point, and the academic year will be over in all but name. Our school already has supplementary lessons for certain subjects (such as Math and English) during vacation periods anyhow....I really don't see what they could teach them by extending the semester into the vacations that they couldn't teach them in the week after the final exams (during which time they normally just let the kids goof off, show them movies and shower them in candy).

The new guidelines have been released to the press....and at the moment it looks like it only applies to Seoul and it is at the Principal's discretion as to whether he chooses to close the school......don't think many will do this unless they have pressure from the parents to do so, a student dies and / or too many teachers get sick.

The guidelines stipulate that elementary schools and kindergartens CAN close for a MAXIMUM of 7 days, with middle schools and high schools being allowed to close for a max. of 5 days each.

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2009/11/113_54669.html

School Closure Left to Principals' Discretion


By Kang Shin-who
Staff Reporter

.....principals at elementary and secondary schools in Seoul can decide to close a class when 10 percent of its students are confirmed to have contracted the new flu virus or 25 percent are suspected of having been infected.......

......if more than two classes in a certain grade are closed, all students in the same year must stay at home. If more than two grades of students have their classes suspended, the school is allowed to shutdown.

Also, if a district has over 30 percent of its schools closed because of the flu, all schools in the district can be closed......

.....schools...don't need to necessarily follow the guidelines.


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Xuanzang



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dress warmly for work then tomorrow everybody.
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Junior



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

English Matt wrote:
don't think many will do this unless they have pressure from the parents to do so.


The parents opinion is key with public schools.

The only thing the principal fears is angry parents.
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vaticanhotline



Joined: 18 Jun 2009
Location: in the most decent sometimes sun

PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Junior wrote:

The parents opinion is key with public schools.

The only thing the principal fears is angry parents.


I was under the impression that if a student dies, then the principal and their teachers are required to pay a fee to the parents, kind of an "honour price" thing. I don't know if this is true or not, since I heard it in a social rather than official context. On the other hand, back home, whenever there's a case of swine flu in a school, they shut it down for a few days, same as here, without closing down the rest of the infrastructure.
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