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Korea to HK? what are the requirements?

 
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Rory_Calhoun27



Joined: 14 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:42 am    Post subject: Korea to HK? what are the requirements? Reply with quote

Hi, all...

Anyone here know the specific requirements for teaching in HK? I was thinking of a change. What all do you need- CBC, degree, etc....?

I read people just showing up there on a tourist visa, and viola, there ya go! Is it that easy, or is there more to it? I assume so, but that seems to be a dangerous thing around here....
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D-Jay



Joined: 24 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I've heard (I could be wrong), you need to be a certified teacher in your home country in order to teach in Hong Kong.
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Otherside



Joined: 06 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Basically, you just need a degree (I'm not sure of the exact visa requirements, regarding CBC, health checks, transcripts etc).

The catch with working in HK is, it's MUCH more expensive than Korea (especially accomodation). If you work for the NET program, the salary range is about US$2500 - US$4000/month, WITH a $1200 housing allowance. However, the NET program is very competitive, and there is a 4 month application process. Basically unless you are certified you don't stand a chance and even then your odds aren't good. (yet a couple of years ago, before ESL took off and the financial crisis, you could get in with a degree and TEFL quite easily).

There are some "hagwon" jobs around. However, HK has an overall much higher level of English fluency and there isn't the same sort of English craze. In effect, most of the hagwon jobs don't pay very well, ($1500-$2000, often with no housing and a pittance of an allowance or very poor housing) AND many of the gigs are geared towards Kindergarden.

Then you've got the University jobs, however these positions are hard to come by, and unlike Korea, these are "proper" University jobs. If you wouldn't get a job at a University back home, you most likely won't here.

So basically you are stuck with a Hagwon job, that pays less, offers poor/no housing, no flight, no severence, and in a country which is more expensive. And you'll be teaching Kindie.

Believe me, I WISH I was in HK now, it's pretty much my favourite place in Asia, and pretty much everything I hate about Korea is great in HK, if it was any other way, I'd be on a flight tomorrow Very Happy
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halfmanhalfbiscuit



Joined: 13 Oct 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teaching cert. preferably with some specific English component. CELTA/TESOL et al. are not enough.

A mate who taught in Kowloon was pathalogically cheap so the housing allowance was sufficient for his purposes.
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Otherside



Joined: 06 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

halfmanhalfbiscuit wrote:
Teaching cert. preferably with some specific English component. CELTA/TESOL et al. are not enough.

A mate who taught in Kowloon was pathalogically cheap so the housing allowance was sufficient for his purposes.


A teaching CERT is NOT REQUIRED (for visa purposes). Whether you'll find a job (especially a decent one) without one is a different matter.
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halfmanhalfbiscuit



Joined: 13 Oct 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Otherside wrote:
halfmanhalfbiscuit wrote:
Teaching cert. preferably with some specific English component. CELTA/TESOL et al. are not enough.

A mate who taught in Kowloon was pathalogically cheap so the housing allowance was sufficient for his purposes.


A teaching CERT is NOT REQUIRED (for visa purposes). Whether you'll find a job (especially a decent one) without one is a different matter.


OK.

http://www.edb.gov.hk/index.aspx?nodeid=1301&langno=1

Hmm.....even a Teaching Cert. may not be enough. ESOL was one of my teaching subjects for my Graduate Diploma of Teaching, don't know how exactly that would place me.

But yeah, they will have priorities for placing people and those priorities may be a mere wish list.
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Otherside



Joined: 06 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Biscuit, clicked on the link.
If you check the requirements for Primary NETS, they are lower.

Quote:
Category 4 (to be appointed at APSM rank, MPS pt. 17-29, with salary bar at MPS Point 22)

(i) a bachelor�s degree in any subject from a Hong Kong University or equivalent; and

(ii) a TEFL/TESL qualification at least at certificate level.


Which is marginally more than what Korea asks.

But as we can both agree, I doubt they hire anyone at those levels anymore. Although, a couple of years ago, you were definitly in with a good shot.

However, if you are really shooting for NET programme, you need to apply well in advance.

Quote:
Applicants applying for the above position for the school year 2009/2010 should complete application forms and send/fax the completed application forms to the following address not later than 28 February 2009. Applications received after this date will be studied for subsequent years.

This is for a September 2009 start.
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Rory_Calhoun27



Joined: 14 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks all.... I'n just having trouble sorting out all the info I'm getting on the matter. I saw on the intl board, or maybe it was somewhere else, of just showing up there, and getting job offers within a few days of hitting the surface and pounding the pavement. seems a bit risky, but does this actually happen?
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Scott in Incheon



Joined: 30 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can get jobs in HK just going there. It is just that they are not that great. When I lived there, every job outside the NET program did not pay you enough to save money/travel unless you really scrimped.

Where the NET program pays between 23-48K a month HK plus the living allowance...hagwon type schools paid about 18K....the difference is huge.

The NET program takes certified teachers first and teachers don't have a salary cap while others often do.
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