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[nytelyfe]

SO a buddy and I are thinking about moving to Seoul, or Busan to teach English for a year or so.


Main problem is this whole NK aggression thing. My buddy is a lot more worried about it than I am, possibly to the point where it is not going to happen because of it.

Should I be more concerned? WIll this blow over? What is the "climate" over there....so many questions...

[crossmr]

We've done this a few times, if you're worried don't come. It would be a stupid move for NK to do anything crazy, but he's a stupid guy.. so we'll see what'll happen...

[Yu_Bum_suk]

[Brooksmatic]

You're on a roll tonight YBS!!

[tzechuk]

[nytelyfe]

[justaguy]

From reading the topic question, I think you should leave teaching war to the army.

[kg2095]

[Yu_Bum_suk]

[Jane]

What about the war? There is no war. There is still an armistice or peace treaty or whatever in effect, despite Kim Jung-Il's vocalization that he no longer feels bound by it. What does that mean coming from KJI? Not much.

The fact is, no one on this board nor any board up to the top international agency can answer the OP's question nor predict what will happen in the future.

If you have reservations about coming to a country that faces political issues such that South Korea does, then don't come. But the truth is, at the moment, I feel much safer here than in Mexico, for example. It's all relative I guess.

I'm more concerned right now about what I should make for dinner tonight.

[spitfire]

[eIn07912]

man, if i could count how many new threads have been started over this in the past few weeks... i'd probably count to 7

look, its one of those things where the possibility of it happening is far less of it not happening. but that doesnt mean it could never happen, not by any stretch of the imagination. there is one crazy arsed mo fo up there and theres really no telling what he might do now that he's come to the end of his time.

i take comfort in knowing that even in the worst case scenario (nuke dropped on seoul) the US has satellites constantly pointed on the areas where they r and even if they started now, it would take 24 hrs of set up to be able to launch it. by that time there would be precision strikes on those targets and the missiles would never get off the ground.

in response, the NORKs would then launch a land invasion. having already put US and ROK forces in ready position before the F-22's left the ground, the ability to defend Seoul and repel an invasion is much more likely than NOKO troupes making it through to the city. taking into account a few lines would break here and there, 95% of the invasion would be blocked. Remember, NOKO has about 80% of its infantry concentrated on the DMZ, as soon as they game pouring over, there�d be a rain of artillery come down on them like those arrows on the Spartans in 300. And shields may block arrows, but not bombs. at the same time, there'd be a hundred Chinook helicopters flying 30 and 40 man squads over the border to drop into a sem-empty forest ready to make a B-line to the capital. the sailors and marines in Japan would be in the sea and headed this way within 4hrs of the strikes and Yongsan and Osan AFB would be almost empty because every bomber and strike fighter would be miles past the DMZ laying waste to over a hundred targets or more within the hour of an alert. remember, US policy is still "initial overwhelming force", the goal is to deliver as much pain as possible in the first 48hrs as to force the enemy into submission as quickly as possible.

US and other foreign citizens would either be ordered to stay at home or if the lines began to fall, told to get to the embassy ASAP.

unless the US provoked an attack, China is likely to sit the manpower out and provide only money and "assistance" to pyong yang. now, if we pushed for a war, there might be "a hundred thousand screaming chinese" come flooding over the border. all "volunteers" of course, so the gov't can say they never ordered anybody to go. in that case, i'll be heading south to Busan as fast as my bike can take me.


in the end, US and ROK forces would prevail. even if china and russia were to jump in the game, which is HIGHLY unlikely. especially the russians. civilian casualties in the south would be at a minimum (provided there was no secret nuke snuck in or something)

and we'd have a ROK flag (probably not a US flag) flying over the NOKO capital within the week

some will try to theorize a situation with insurgents and guerilla squads roaming around, but keep in mind, all they have is numbers. NOKO troops r out gunned and out flanked (the US, ROK, and Japan have far superior Navy's) most of them r starving and under trained compared to even the chain smoking, star craft obsessed ROK forces. what artillery and armor they do have is massively outdated. most of it being post korean war error equipment. their pilots get very little air time as fuel is rationed and they still fly soviet era MiG's. even the, now outdated, F-18 hornets and super hornets could fly circles around them... not to mention the fear the F-22 provides on its own. plus, we still have plenty of MOABs (massive ordinance air blast - "mother of all bombs") that can take out 9 city blocks with pure, good old fashioned TNT. not a trace of plutonium in those bad boys.

the US military has been try to readjust to fight a new "non-traditional" war with terrorist and civilian clothed insurgents. its been hard we're still learning a lot. NOKO would provide a "traditional" war with guys in uniforms, tanks in neat little columns, and old school maneuvers. this is the US militaries wet dream. theyve been begging for a "normal" war for a decade or more (thinking thats what Sadam would have done) so we can show off all our new toys and try out a lot of the Cold War stuff we didnt get a chance to use.

The US was ready to stand alone against the USSR and would have pounded them back (absent all nukes) so, NOKO would be like a exhibition game with the Harlem Globetrotters and the Washington Generals


dont believe me... read this http://www.cdi.org/north-korea/north-korea-crisis.pdf

sure, its a little outdated, and u know if we've put it online where the whole world can read it, we're already got a new plan thats filled with twice as much awesome. enjoy!

[dmbfan]

[Rteacher]

From most accounts that I've read, there's practically no way to prevent massive civilian casualties in South Korea if North Korea attacked. Even without missiles, their heavy artillary could kill millions and destroy much of Seoul.

Of course, Busan is apparently less vulnerable, and so figures to be a safer location in the event of war.

There's definitely some risk, but that's part of the charm (curse?) of living here...

[Yu_Bum_suk]