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dharma bum



Joined: 15 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 7:14 pm    Post subject: visa renewal and fighting Reply with quote

a friend of mine got in a fight recently and had to go through all the blood money stuff. in the process, a report was filed against him with the police - who made a copy of his ARC card, etc. - and he had to go down to the police station, etc. now, while he didn't seriously hurt the other guy (who was pretty much at fault by the way), he's worried about the repercussions of the police report in regard to his application to renew his visa in a couple of months - mainly that it will show up on the computer and lead immigration to refuse to renew his visa. does anyone know if this is a legitimate concern or if it'll stay out of the computer system as long as the blood money is paid? i just know there was a story about some guy getting in a car accident where people were injured here in korea and him not being allowed to return to korea because of that, and i don't want something like that to happen to my buddy. thanks for your help!

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Straphanger



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Chilgok, Korea

PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this like... a serious post?
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dharma bum



Joined: 15 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yup, it is - why do you ask?
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Straphanger



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Chilgok, Korea

PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dharma bum wrote:
yup, it is - why do you ask?

What kind of neanderthal would lay hands on another person? Whatever the fight was about, I hope somebody banged *somebody's* sister, because that would be the only reason I could think...

Wait, this is ridiculous. Tell your friend to stay home with the other rednecks.
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dharma bum



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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

he had steaming hot odaeng broth thrown in his face for accidentally bumping into a guy and saying he was sorry. the other guy was upset enough that my friend had to restrain him and, in the process, the guy bumped his head. my friend did not throw a single punch. now, if you're done trolling, i'd really appreciate some helpful responses.
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Straphanger



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Chilgok, Korea

PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, *helpful* responses... sorry, I thought you wanted meaningless trolls.

In fact, I can tell you that if blood money was paid, the police were barely involved, and it will most likely not show up on his record. YMMV, but I've never heard of anyone who paid blood money and was *not* deported at the time, be harassed by immi or anyone for the incident ever again.

Blood money basically means "Here's some cash, let's forget the whole thing happened."

Also, Edit, o-deng broth smells like turd. I'd rather ... literally.. I'd rather have dog crap on me than o-deng broth.
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dharma bum



Joined: 15 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Straphanger wrote:
Oh, *helpful* responses... sorry, I thought you wanted meaningless trolls.

In fact, I can tell you that if blood money was paid, the police were barely involved, and it will most likely not show up on his record. YMMV, but I've never heard of anyone who paid blood money and was *not* deported at the time, be harassed by immi or anyone for the incident ever again.

Blood money basically means "Here's some cash, let's forget the whole thing happened."

Also, Edit, o-deng broth smells like turd. I'd rather ... literally.. I'd rather have dog crap on me than o-deng broth.


thank you for the help. just to clarify, you're saying that my buddy should expect to be deported or have some trouble with immigration because of this? if so, how might they find out about the incident if, as you mentioned, the police were barely involved?

i'd also still really appreciate hearing about anything else anyone knows about this type of thing...
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Straphanger



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Chilgok, Korea

PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dharma bum wrote:
thank you for the help. just to clarify, you're saying that my buddy should expect to be deported or have some trouble with immigration because of this? if so, how might they find out about the incident if, as you mentioned, the police were barely involved?

When I say "barely" involved, I mean that the police negotiated a settlement between the two parties and put it to bed. If your friend has issues later about this, he didn't get what he paid for, which was silence. If he wasn't arrested, wasn't deported, wasn't banged up in any stretch, then he most likely won't have a problem.

But he's got to remember the three "S"s. Shoot, shovel, and STFU.
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Forward Observer



Joined: 13 Jan 2009
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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DB,

13 years ago, I was involved in a fight with a Korean guy that hit my bike (I was parked on the sidewalk in front of a restaurant and he drove his truck into my bike, knocked it over, crushed it and kept going even though he looked out his window and saw exactly what he'd done) I watched the whole thing from my seat inside. I went down 100 yards, saw him entering the store he worked at, and when I confronted him about it - he shoved me. I ended up stuffing him headfirst into a washing machine on display. Nevertheless, I had to pay about 200,000 won blood money to his boss for breaking a rice cooker. The police were involved, but I was never deported - and the subject never again came up.

I doubt your friend will have any problems, but things may have changed in the past 13 years, and I haven't lived here for all those years between '98 and 2007.

Good luck.
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dharma bum



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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the help, forward observer - and, once again, straphanger. my friend hasn't heard anything more about the incident in the last few days and hopefully it will stay that way, as you guys have indicated it might. i guess you never know what's going to happen next around here though...
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harlowethrombey



Joined: 17 Mar 2009
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forward Observer wrote:
DB,

13 years ago, I was involved in a fight with a Korean guy that hit my bike (I was parked on the sidewalk in front of a restaurant and he drove his truck into my bike, knocked it over, crushed it and kept going even though he looked out his window and saw exactly what he'd done) I watched the whole thing from my seat inside. I went down 100 yards, saw him entering the store he worked at, and when I confronted him about it - he shoved me. I ended up stuffing him headfirst into a washing machine on display. Nevertheless, I had to pay about 200,000 won blood money to his boss for breaking a rice cooker. The police were involved, but I was never deported - and the subject never again came up.

I doubt your friend will have any problems, but things may have changed in the past 13 years, and I haven't lived here for all those years between '98 and 2007.

Good luck.


Very Happy

My first resolution on coming to Korea was 'no more fighting.'

DB, this incident didnt occur Saturday night at Hongdae did it? I saw a pretty big brawl there and am just curious as to what the story was.
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dharma bum



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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nope, it didn't happen in hongdae. i might've seen the fight you're talking about though. was there saturday night and saw a group of korean guys (one with a metal chair) going at it with some well-dressed white kids...
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michaelambling



Joined: 31 Dec 2008
Location: Paradise

PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dharma bum wrote:
nope, it didn't happen in hongdae. i might've seen the fight you're talking about though. was there saturday night and saw a group of korean guys (one with a metal chair) going at it with some well-dressed white kids...


o_0

...a metal chair? Well-dressed white kids--Mormons?
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locksley



Joined: 30 May 2009

PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like to know if your friend's incident was found by immigration. Has he applied to renew yet?
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dharma bum



Joined: 15 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

as far as i know, he has not heard anything else about it from anyone. at the same time, though, he hasn't tried to renew his visa yet either, so that problem might just be waiting around the corner.

i'm not sure exactly when he's going to need to go through the renewal process but will try to post what happens when he does, if i can remember to.
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