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School's Attitude Towards Hung Over Teachers
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gregtheman100



Joined: 20 Apr 2009
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:25 am    Post subject: School's Attitude Towards Hung Over Teachers Reply with quote

I've been in Busan for 4 months now. Lately, I've been coming to work pretty hung over. It hasn't really effected my classes, but I feel guilty when it's obvious that I had a late night. I was told that they don't mind teachers going in with hang overs, but back in the UK it looks terrible.

So what are your thoughts? What positive/negative reactions have you gotten from going to work hung over? Are you at a PS or Hagwon?
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lifeinkorea



Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China

PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I personally don't like the feeling, it's like when you eat something that makes you fart or poop a lot. You have to battle holding it in while carrying on with the day.

So, if I drink, I do it early right after school and give myself plenty of time to get it out of my system for the next day. I feel much better when I do this.

I don't mean to come off preachy, but an online friend died on May 20th at the age of 36. He apparently drank himself to death and in April his liver gave out.

I stopped drinking in May, and when I tried it again I didn't realize how much I was drinking. I come nowhere the condition you are in. So, it sounds like if I were you, I would be drinking less for health reasons and not because you might get looked at differently.
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

even if it's rum, just say it was "soju", and Korean coworkers and boss will smile and/or nod in an acceptance sort of way
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phoneboothface



Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya my students admit that they're hungover all the time, fine with me since they normally cut class short those days...

Of course it can't be a regular problem but seems like you get a pass for being hungover here more often than you would back home.
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Big Mac



Joined: 17 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I usually avoid alcohol on a weeknight. But on Thursday night I went out for dinner with some of the Grade 6 teachers and the soju was flowing like water. I don't even remember going home and I woke up on Friday morning just before I was supposed to be at work still drunk and with my dinner all over me and my bed. I was disgusted with myself.

I dragged my ass to work and spent the next two hours laying on the floor (my first two classes were cancelled). The teachers who got me drunk were bringing me those hangover drinks and seemed genuinely concerned. My co-teacher told me to go home and said she would cover my classes.

No one gave me any grief, perhaps because they knew this is not a common thing for me. They also knew that they were partly responsible for the situation. I mean, I drank it so it really was my fault, but it's their whole social, one-shot, glass never empty drinking culture that kills me every time.

I feel very bad about the whole thing though, and will definitely keep away from the alcohol at any future dinners on weeknights.

It seems that after my thirtieth birthday, hangovers have become next to intolerable for me. I'm almost at the point where I don't even want to drink at all now.
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Straphanger



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Chilgok, Korea

PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big Mac wrote:
I dragged my ass to work and spent the next two hours laying on the floor (my first two classes were cancelled). The teachers who got me drunk were bringing me those hangover drinks and seemed genuinely concerned. My co-teacher told me to go home and said she would cover my classes.

Goodness. Are you a professional or are you not?

OP, same question.
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gregtheman100



Joined: 20 Apr 2009
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha, yeah I'm a professional. I love my job and feel that I do a really good job.

If drinking started to change my teaching abilities and classes, I'd immediately stop. It's more of a cosmetic worry - When your boss sees your bloodshot eyes, etc. It's not like I'm going in drunk or anything. I just look a little tired from the night before.

Anyway, I was just curious to hear if anyone has gotten a negative response. I haven't, but wondered if anyone has.
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Straphanger



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Chilgok, Korea

PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gregtheman100 wrote:
Anyway, I was just curious to hear if anyone has gotten a negative response. I haven't, but wondered if anyone has.

How would you feel about it? If you were your boss? Is this the behaviour you'd come to expect from a professional?
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bundangbabo



Joined: 01 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Straphanger wrote:
gregtheman100 wrote:
Anyway, I was just curious to hear if anyone has gotten a negative response. I haven't, but wondered if anyone has.

How would you feel about it? If you were your boss? Is this the behaviour you'd come to expect from a professional?


I bet they are chuffed to bits - he'll confirm all their Mod Edit stereotypes...
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bundangbabo



Joined: 01 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big Mac wrote:
I usually avoid alcohol on a weeknight. But on Thursday night I went out for dinner with some of the Grade 6 teachers and the soju was flowing like water. I don't even remember going home and I woke up on Friday morning just before I was supposed to be at work still drunk and with my dinner all over me and my bed. I was disgusted with myself.

I dragged my ass to work and spent the next two hours laying on the floor (my first two classes were cancelled). The teachers who got me drunk were bringing me those hangover drinks and seemed genuinely concerned. My co-teacher told me to go home and said she would cover my classes.

No one gave me any grief, perhaps because they knew this is not a common thing for me. They also knew that they were partly responsible for the situation. I mean, I drank it so it really was my fault, but it's their whole social, one-shot, glass never empty drinking culture that kills me every time.

I feel very bad about the whole thing though, and will definitely keep away from the alcohol at any future dinners on weeknights.

It seems that after my thirtieth birthday, hangovers have become next to intolerable for me. I'm almost at the point where I don't even want to drink at all now.


I'm glad to hear your work situation has improved - nice one!

PS: My offer to sort out big boy still stands - and you thought I wasn't being serious! Twisted Evil
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TwoFold



Joined: 31 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Lately, I've been coming to work pretty hung over.


Sorry man, can't side with you on this one. Showing up to work hungover is not a step in the right direction for the foreigner community. Then again, I guess I've always thought professionalism was important. Confused

You might not think it's a big deal, but I sincerely hope that you have the chance to change that habit before it comes back to bite you.
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Sleepy in Seoul



Joined: 15 May 2004
Location: Going in ever decreasing circles until I eventually disappear up my own fundament - in NZ

PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Straphanger wrote:
Big Mac wrote:
I dragged my ass to work and spent the next two hours laying on the floor (my first two classes were cancelled). The teachers who got me drunk were bringing me those hangover drinks and seemed genuinely concerned. My co-teacher told me to go home and said she would cover my classes.


Goodness. Are you a professional or are you not?

OP, same question.

Straphanger, no-one is married to their job. I'm certainly not going to sit at home every weeknight polishing my lesson plans and classroom patter at the expense of having a life. Being a professional is turning up to work and doing your job in a professional manner no matter what (barring illness), especially when it's self-inflicted. Big Mac sounds like he may have overdone the party juice but well done for turning up at all.
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okayden223



Joined: 05 Jun 2009
Location: Incheon

PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you teach in a hagwon OP? I guess if you're starting work after noon it might be a little bit different. I taught in a public school and I came in once or twice in the beginning after a night of drinking. I came to the realization that my students were not going to be enthusiastic about the lessons if I wasn't. I felt like I owed it to them to be ready to give them my best everyday. Kids have a lot of energy and you know they're not going home and drinking, so I felt like I needed to be on the top of my game during the week. That being said, I'm not so young now and I have to agree with some of the other posters who've said hangovers are tougher to deal with as you get older. In college I could wake up with a terrible hangover and be good by mid afternoon. I had a couple in Korea that basically lasted my entire weekend. As always drink responsibly.

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Big Mac



Joined: 17 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bundangbabo wrote:

I'm glad to hear your work situation has improved - nice one!

PS: My offer to sort out big boy still stands - and you thought I wasn't being serious! Twisted Evil


It's all because my new co-teacher actually tells me about school gatherings. My old co-teacher never did, and I still don't know exactly why.

The old guy that I almost got into a fight with has been steering clear of me and I have been doing the same. I am NOT drinking soju with him anytime soon!

And to the person who said I was unprofessional above...I will admit that what I did this week was extremely unprofessional. In my hogwan life, I used to hate it when I would have to cover for teachers who were hungover. I've never been hungover like that in the past and never will be again in the future. It was a one-time slip-up, which is probably why they were so good about it. I wouldn't expect them to be very nice about it if it happened frequently.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP, if your post is legit (debatable) then you may have a drinking problem. Not good- for YOU. Start taking better care of yourself and limit your drinking to weekends. If you can't do that, then you may need some sort of counseling/rehab in your home country. Wanna be alive in 10 years? It may not happen if this keeps up. Look, there's only one YOU and you need to take care of yourself.
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