Site Search:
 
Speak Korean Now!
Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!
Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Korean Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

zone out

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Job-related Discussion Forum
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
thefarns



Joined: 21 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:41 pm    Post subject: zone out Reply with quote

Several students didn't do their homework yesterday. I taught for most of the class, then at the end did some questioning about the homework. Specifically, about why it was't done. It was incredible. They got this half-smiling, dazed look. Their eyes glazed over and in some cases rolled around in their heads. They couldn't answer simple questions like "where are you right now?" If I didn't know better, I'd have sworn they were drugged. Is this common? Was this extreme? What magical phsychological switch did I push?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Joe666



Joined: 19 Nov 2008
Location: Jesus it's hot down here!

PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I gave out homework once. A joke. I was just reading another post chock full of what you are describing. I am a newbie, 4 months in and it doesn't take long to realize that most students just don't care about English. That's what I truly believe causes the catatonic states present in a lot of English classes in K-land.

The other major factor is your not Korean. You just don't have the authority to really "drop the hammer" on the students. They absolutely know this and will test you every second they can.

This thread and the other related one came into my life at an excellent time. My frustration level has been at an all time high the last two days because of the "zombies" I see in all my classes. I don't know what to tell you because I am also having trouble dealing with it right now. I guess take comfort in knowing that most of us are dealing with the same thing!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You must be quite new. 75% of Korean students don't do homework unless they get punished for not doing it. Even then, a certian % of them would rather get punished. You may well be the first ever foreigner to try to make them do homework. This means that you'll first have to teach them that they get punished for not doing the FT's homework as well.

BTW, I don't bother with homework.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
blackjack



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: anyang

PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:39 pm    Post subject: Re: zone out Reply with quote

thefarns wrote:
Several students didn't do their homework yesterday. I taught for most of the class, then at the end did some questioning about the homework. Specifically, about why it was't done. It was incredible. They got this half-smiling, dazed look. Their eyes glazed over and in some cases rolled around in their heads. They couldn't answer simple questions like "where are you right now?" If I didn't know better, I'd have sworn they were drugged. Is this common? Was this extreme? What magical phsychological switch did I push?


Also consider the fact that this is what they were hearing.

Why blah blah blah do blah blah. look blah blah homework blah blah. Look at me. Understand?? Understand??? blah blah, I'm really blah blah. You blah blah homeblah, homeblah???. Please blah blah, be quiet blah blah, look blah me. Next blah time. okay? okay? underblah? promise?

thank you blah blah blah
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
thefarns



Joined: 21 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If comprehension were a problem at other times, this situation wouldn't have been remarkable to me. I taught Korean kindergarteners before this and was able to communicate effectively enough with them. "Blah, blah, blah" was not an issue at this time.

Later on, when I lectured, it may well have been, but it didn't matter. Their role at that point was to appear chastened, which they did with aplomb.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Tobias



Joined: 02 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know...studies have shown that excessive staring at computer screens, especially after about 8 p.m. can cause sleep disturbances and make it difficult to fall asleep to begin with. Perhaps your students are staying up late playing computer games (instead of doing something useful, such as homework).
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
JJJ



Joined: 27 Nov 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't give them homework. They get enough of it from all the academies they go to. Remember, academies are the new schools and schools are day care centers. I've seen my students academy workbooks and homework sheets. They are following the same Korean, English, Math, etc books that the school uses but in more detail. The homework they get is pretty detailed and all geared for the exams. I'm just happy if they listen, participate once in a while, don't fight, sleep or tell me to go F myself. Laughing
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Job-related Discussion Forum All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling.
Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

TEFL International Supports Dave's ESL Cafe
TEFL Courses, TESOL Course, English Teaching Jobs - TEFL International