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jennzy
Joined: 12 Jan 2009
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 Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 11:21 am Post subject: better job than smoe on a f4 visa? |
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my search function does not work so hopefully someone can help me.
i got offered a smoe job on a 1.8 mill a month.
i was told and read that on a f4 visa i could be getting paif 3-4 mill a month
except i don't know how to go on about t hat. any advice? |
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marlow
Joined: 06 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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| I'd come over on something stable and do a job search while here. |
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sigmundsmith
Joined: 22 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 6:02 pm Post subject: Re: better job than smoe on a f4 visa? |
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| jennzy wrote: |
my search function does not work so hopefully someone can help me.
i got offered a smoe job on a 1.8 mill a month.
i was told and read that on a f4 visa i could be getting paif 3-4 mill a month
except i don't know how to go on about t hat. any advice? |
Wow. Never new that if you had a F4 visa you automatically get paid 3-4 mill/mnth.
In all seriousness, I assume that from the info you have given that the salary you are being offered from SMOE means that you don't have any teaching experience or you don't have specific academic qualifications (B.ed/MA/TESOL cerificate) that would cause you an automatic rise in pay.
There are jobs that pay close to 3mill a month at academies but I believe you have to work Saturdays or every second Saturday.
The other way of course because you are on an F4 is to do privates as well as your permantent job (with SMOE). That would give you the type of money you seek.
Even most of the university gigs where you are required to have a masters don't pay the hire bracket that you are seeking - that is of course unless you are doing overtime.
Good luck though with your search with that salary range. I personally have just got a job paying a base of 3 mill plus 500 housing per month not teaching more than 25 hours no Saturdays and not teaching kids. But I have a few years experience and qualifications |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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| Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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| 3 to 4 million on an F-4? Good luck! You'll have to work 2 jobs to get that, unless you work 1 and are allowed to get tons of hours at OT rates. |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 7:52 pm Post subject: Re: better job than smoe on a f4 visa? |
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| jennzy wrote: |
i was told and read that on a f4 visa i could be getting paif 3-4 mill a month
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Who told you that?
I freaking hate people who spread lies. I had this one Korean girl tell me her gyopo boyfriend made 5 mil a month teaching English at a Hagwon. I told her she was full of crap, but she swore by it. I told her that the most he could be making in a hagwon was 2.5 mil. She got really angry and walked away.
Where are these mystical 4-5mil / month jobs that Gyopos have? Apparently there are thousands of these jobs out there.
Actually, I make 3 mil+. It took 3 years and a TEFL to get it too. No one fresh off the boat to Korea is going to make 3-4 mil teaching ESL in Korea.
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On second though, you can make that. Get a morning business English teaching gig. You'll be waking up around 7am for that one. As soon as thats finished, I guess you could freelance from 10am-2pm. Then from 2pm-10pm you can get a steady hagwon job.
.6 mil from business English + .4 mil from freelance + 2 mil from Hagwon
+ .4 (average) housing allowance = 3.4 Million a month.
You'll be working Mon-Fri, from 7am-10pm. Oh yeah, you can pick up Saturday, Sunday classes too, so I guess when you add those you come up with 4 mil a month.
If you don't mind 80 hour work weeks, then by all means, get the 4 mil a month. |
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crsandus
Joined: 05 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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It might be easier to get the 4 million by get a 10-2 type kindy position and then a 3-9 or 3-10 hagwon job. The kindy job should be 1.5 or so and the hagwon could be 2-2.5.
I certainly wouldn't want to work those hours but it's possible.
As for me, yeah I've got the lowly 2.0 SMOE job but I supplement that with a school district approved afterschool program at a middle school. That provides W120K per week (3 45 minute classes on Wednesdays with zombie-like middle schoolers *shudder*).
I say stick with SMOE, get a TEFL cert for your second contract, hope that you get a school that gives you 25 classes a week or has an afterschool program, maybe throw in a private or two and you can hit the 3 million mark with some elbow grease and luck. |
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Goon-Yang
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I't's doable, but not on your first year.
I have a company gig in the morning, then my regular job. Next week I'll start a mon-thurs 2hour a night gig. I make damn good money, but I've also been here over 10 years and my resume shows it.
If you think you'll walk over here and make 5 mil a month for being a gyopo...you're dreaming. In fact your Korean blood may get in the way of making big money unless you also speak perfect Korean and have a near perfect SAT (whatever) score. |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Goon-Yang wrote: |
I't's doable, but not on your first year.
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If you think you'll walk over here and make 5 mil a month for being a gyopo...you're dreaming. In fact your Korean blood may get in the way of making big money unless you also speak perfect Korean and have a near perfect SAT (whatever) score. |
Like I said, these 1st year gyopos come over and hear stories about other gyopos making 4-5 million a month. I heard those same stories my 1st year in Korea.
Only 1st year gyopo that will make 4-5 mil a month is a Harvard English Professor. And yes, a hagwon or University in Korea would low-ball a Harvard English Professor with 4-5 million won salary, and then have the nerve to say it is "very generous". |
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digsydinner
Joined: 24 May 2009
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| Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:41 am Post subject: Re: better job than smoe on a f4 visa? |
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| jennzy wrote: |
my search function does not work so hopefully someone can help me.
i got offered a smoe job on a 1.8 mill a month.
i was told and read that on a f4 visa i could be getting paif 3-4 mill a month
except i don't know how to go on about t hat. any advice? |
you should really milk that F-4 if you can.
two of my housemates are here on F-4 and actually make a bit more than 4...we've all been here less than 2 years....and none of us have education degrees or certifications. one is going back to the states and may be opening up a position for someone. pm me if you want more details. i'd take the job myself, but i'm not an F-4. |
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dcausey
Joined: 13 Oct 2008
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| Digsydinner I can't PM you because I haven't made 25 posts yet. But I have an F-4 visa, and interested in the potential job opening. |
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CA-NA-DA-ABC
Joined: 20 Jun 2006
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LOL at people who think experience and resume counts for some monetary significance in K-ESL Land. A 10th year hagwon teacher is exactly that-a hagwon teacher.
It's all about looks, connections, and maintenance. Actually, throw in a masters in a related field.
4-5 million is possible. It's just very hard and you'll burn out in a few months  |
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