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Ok, tell me why this wouldn't work: selling alcohol
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jdog2050



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 2:27 am    Post subject: Ok, tell me why this wouldn't work: selling alcohol Reply with quote

So as some of you know, I make beer, and I've been thinking of a way of capitalizing off my product as well as getting in valuable practice. So, what would be the best way to sell my wares in Korea? Would I seriously need a 50,000,000 won business license? Are there any visa additions you could get in order to sell beer as a handicraft or homemade item?

It's very grey area because Korea's homebrew laws are pretty lax (you can actually sell to friends, but not to bars).

Give me the negatives.


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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i would pay 100,000 won for a one liter bottle of cayman rum

it's a standing offer of mine on dave's

(not jamacan, not puerto rican, but cayman)

so if you branch out from homemade beer into import/export, you've got a customer
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jdog2050



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, here's an alternative: what if I gave it to a Korean/Kyopo for *them* to sell?
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many Koreans sell "Bathtub punch"- just go to Jongno Sam-Ga station on a Saturday night, and walk around the outside of exits 8 or 9. Laughing
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Chambertin



Joined: 07 Jun 2009
Location: Gunsan

PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a fellow brewer and a former retailer of happy products I say be wary of selling your home brew even if you have the licensing to sell any kind of booze known to man.

The government makes a nice coin on every part of the distribution chain through taxes, but the primary source is added on to the retail price (in theory). This can be done at the retailer, but is generally added to the distribution chain indirectly as it is easier to collect in bulk amounts than to try to audit every store in the country.

So even if you get a license to sell the beer it is most likely not the same license you need to make it legally (and vie versa). As we all know everyone and their brother knows someone who homebrews and sells. Problem is that being a foreigner you will stick out and show up on the radar.
I nearly got a heavy pinch for trying to sell my own beer in my store to friends. As it wasn�t a registered sale (and it was an off duty friend who saw it) I avoided lots of fines and potential jail time in the US. After that I made sure people came to my home to buy 6 pack holders.

I would avoid selling to anyone but very trusted friends.
I assume that Korea is like every other country and has a lengthy process to license making and selling of your product direct to consumer.
It stands to reason that any agent would love to make a name for themself by busting you for manufacture of illicit booze and anyone who gets caught would love to get off by turning you in.

Again these are just warnings, with proper investigation you might make quite a mint selling good beer to a very demanding market with a legitimate business. Make sure you investigate alcohol specifically as the taxes are always different than a regular business.
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skeeterses



Joined: 25 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as gaining experience, I say just make it at home and sell it to close friends.

As far as making any money in the booze business, I don't think there's any need to explain the astronomical amount of startup capital necessary to be able import the really good stuff from America and sell it to the grocery stores.
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halfmanhalfbiscuit



Joined: 13 Oct 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea's breweries have a stranglehold on the beer market to which others cannot compete-either not worthwhile or prohibitively difficult/ expensive to get involved.

eg Castle Praha do not bad beer but can't do "take-out"
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Robot_Teacher



Joined: 18 Feb 2009
Location: Robotting Around the World

PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I understand microbreweries are not allowed to sell anything to go such as kegs and bottles, but can only serve on their premises as to protect the 2 big breweries economic interests. I could be mistaken, but a microbrewery wouldn't let me buy a keg or case of bottles to go.
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jdog2050



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robot_Teacher wrote:
I understand microbreweries are not allowed to sell anything to go such as kegs and bottles, but can only serve on their premises as to protect the 2 big breweries economic interests. I could be mistaken, but a microbrewery wouldn't let me buy a keg or case of bottles to go.


O'Kims Brauhaus in Coex sells their beer to-go (in some very swank bottles, might I add).

Also, guys, I'm literally thinking of selling my beer, like, from a cooler in Hongdae park, ya know? But I hear you, and your concerns are definitely my concerns.
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byrddogs



Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's totally unrelated, but did you look at an apartment near Ewha in the last couple of months jdog2050 Laughing ?
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Straphanger



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Chilgok, Korea

PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 2:18 am    Post subject: Re: Ok, tell me why this wouldn't work: selling alcohol Reply with quote

jdog2050 wrote:
Give me the negatives.

With your history of not getting even the most basic vaccines, you'd have to pay me to drink any beer you make.
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Papa Smurf



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jdog2050 wrote:
Robot_Teacher wrote:
I understand microbreweries are not allowed to sell anything to go such as kegs and bottles, but can only serve on their premises as to protect the 2 big breweries economic interests. I could be mistaken, but a microbrewery wouldn't let me buy a keg or case of bottles to go.


O'Kims Brauhaus in Coex sells their beer to-go (in some very swank bottles, might I add).

Also, guys, I'm literally thinking of selling my beer, like, from a cooler in Hongdae park, ya know? But I hear you, and your concerns are definitely my concerns.


yes, that's true. not as good as praha tho.
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byrddogs



Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, you have boasted about your home-brew on MANY occassions. How about giving some samples of your product? I am of German heritage and know good beer. Are you sure that it is actually good, or are you just proud of yourself for brewing it?
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JungMin



Joined: 18 May 2005

PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ohhh, German heritage....You must know good beer!?!? Rolling Eyes
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jdog2050



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

byrddogs wrote:
Yes, you have boasted about your home-brew on MANY occassions. How about giving some samples of your product? I am of German heritage and know good beer. Are you sure that it is actually good, or are you just proud of yourself for brewing it?


I'll put it like this, even when it doesn't hit the target style that I want, it's still a trillion times better than Cass. I haven't made an undrinkable beer yet, it's just kind of hard to hit a style perfectly because the ingredients in Korea are scant.
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