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jdog2050

Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 2:27 am Post subject: Ok, tell me why this wouldn't work: selling alcohol |
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So as some of you know, I make beer, and I've been thinking of a way of capitalizing off my product as well as getting in valuable practice. So, what would be the best way to sell my wares in Korea? Would I seriously need a 50,000,000 won business license? Are there any visa additions you could get in order to sell beer as a handicraft or homemade item?
It's very grey area because Korea's homebrew laws are pretty lax (you can actually sell to friends, but not to bars).
Give me the negatives.
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 2:34 am Post subject: |
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i would pay 100,000 won for a one liter bottle of cayman rum
it's a standing offer of mine on dave's
(not jamacan, not puerto rican, but cayman)
so if you branch out from homemade beer into import/export, you've got a customer |
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jdog2050

Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 3:13 am Post subject: |
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| Also, here's an alternative: what if I gave it to a Korean/Kyopo for *them* to sell? |
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wylies99

Joined: 13 May 2006 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 3:19 am Post subject: |
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Many Koreans sell "Bathtub punch"- just go to Jongno Sam-Ga station on a Saturday night, and walk around the outside of exits 8 or 9.  |
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Chambertin
Joined: 07 Jun 2009 Location: Gunsan
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 11:36 am Post subject: |
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As a fellow brewer and a former retailer of happy products I say be wary of selling your home brew even if you have the licensing to sell any kind of booze known to man.
The government makes a nice coin on every part of the distribution chain through taxes, but the primary source is added on to the retail price (in theory). This can be done at the retailer, but is generally added to the distribution chain indirectly as it is easier to collect in bulk amounts than to try to audit every store in the country.
So even if you get a license to sell the beer it is most likely not the same license you need to make it legally (and vie versa). As we all know everyone and their brother knows someone who homebrews and sells. Problem is that being a foreigner you will stick out and show up on the radar.
I nearly got a heavy pinch for trying to sell my own beer in my store to friends. As it wasn�t a registered sale (and it was an off duty friend who saw it) I avoided lots of fines and potential jail time in the US. After that I made sure people came to my home to buy 6 pack holders.
I would avoid selling to anyone but very trusted friends.
I assume that Korea is like every other country and has a lengthy process to license making and selling of your product direct to consumer.
It stands to reason that any agent would love to make a name for themself by busting you for manufacture of illicit booze and anyone who gets caught would love to get off by turning you in.
Again these are just warnings, with proper investigation you might make quite a mint selling good beer to a very demanding market with a legitimate business. Make sure you investigate alcohol specifically as the taxes are always different than a regular business. |
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skeeterses
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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As far as gaining experience, I say just make it at home and sell it to close friends.
As far as making any money in the booze business, I don't think there's any need to explain the astronomical amount of startup capital necessary to be able import the really good stuff from America and sell it to the grocery stores. |
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halfmanhalfbiscuit
Joined: 13 Oct 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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Korea's breweries have a stranglehold on the beer market to which others cannot compete-either not worthwhile or prohibitively difficult/ expensive to get involved.
eg Castle Praha do not bad beer but can't do "take-out" |
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Robot_Teacher
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Location: Robotting Around the World
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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| I understand microbreweries are not allowed to sell anything to go such as kegs and bottles, but can only serve on their premises as to protect the 2 big breweries economic interests. I could be mistaken, but a microbrewery wouldn't let me buy a keg or case of bottles to go. |
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jdog2050

Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Robot_Teacher wrote: |
| I understand microbreweries are not allowed to sell anything to go such as kegs and bottles, but can only serve on their premises as to protect the 2 big breweries economic interests. I could be mistaken, but a microbrewery wouldn't let me buy a keg or case of bottles to go. |
O'Kims Brauhaus in Coex sells their beer to-go (in some very swank bottles, might I add).
Also, guys, I'm literally thinking of selling my beer, like, from a cooler in Hongdae park, ya know? But I hear you, and your concerns are definitely my concerns. |
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byrddogs

Joined: 19 Jun 2009 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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It's totally unrelated, but did you look at an apartment near Ewha in the last couple of months jdog2050 ? |
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Straphanger
Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Location: Chilgok, Korea
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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 2:18 am Post subject: Re: Ok, tell me why this wouldn't work: selling alcohol |
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| jdog2050 wrote: |
| Give me the negatives. |
With your history of not getting even the most basic vaccines, you'd have to pay me to drink any beer you make. |
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Papa Smurf
Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 2:28 am Post subject: |
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| jdog2050 wrote: |
| Robot_Teacher wrote: |
| I understand microbreweries are not allowed to sell anything to go such as kegs and bottles, but can only serve on their premises as to protect the 2 big breweries economic interests. I could be mistaken, but a microbrewery wouldn't let me buy a keg or case of bottles to go. |
O'Kims Brauhaus in Coex sells their beer to-go (in some very swank bottles, might I add).
Also, guys, I'm literally thinking of selling my beer, like, from a cooler in Hongdae park, ya know? But I hear you, and your concerns are definitely my concerns. |
yes, that's true. not as good as praha tho. |
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byrddogs

Joined: 19 Jun 2009 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 2:46 am Post subject: |
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| Yes, you have boasted about your home-brew on MANY occassions. How about giving some samples of your product? I am of German heritage and know good beer. Are you sure that it is actually good, or are you just proud of yourself for brewing it? |
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JungMin

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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 5:44 am Post subject: |
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Ohhh, German heritage....You must know good beer!?!?  |
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jdog2050

Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 5:52 am Post subject: |
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| byrddogs wrote: |
| Yes, you have boasted about your home-brew on MANY occassions. How about giving some samples of your product? I am of German heritage and know good beer. Are you sure that it is actually good, or are you just proud of yourself for brewing it? |
I'll put it like this, even when it doesn't hit the target style that I want, it's still a trillion times better than Cass. I haven't made an undrinkable beer yet, it's just kind of hard to hit a style perfectly because the ingredients in Korea are scant. |
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