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slothrop
Joined: 03 Feb 2003
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:44 pm Post subject: edit |
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pentheus
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Location: Korea
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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I see North Korean soldiers walking down the street I'll hop out with Irish Passport in hand and a list of were all those annoying yanks in my town are!
And continue working away happy as larry.
I think you need to relax amigo, you get worked up about 'what ifs' then life becomes pretty miserable.. |
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Gaber

Joined: 23 Apr 2006
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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Drive south fast. |
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NightSky
Joined: 19 Apr 2005
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:39 pm Post subject: Re: if there is a war here, then what's your plan? |
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slothrop wrote: |
i'm an american married to a korean. i know where i'm supposed to go to evacuate in the event of a war. and what papers to bring so she can come with me. then what? what if you'v been here so long you don't even have a bank account back in your home country cause the government seized it for inactivity. what if whatever relatives you still keep in contact with might let you crash on the couch for a little while, but, don't really want you's around all that much. hey. why would they? would you? what about those people who don't have anyone back home to fall back on? even if you have the maximum 10 grand you're allowed to carry internationally stashed in travellers checks, how long will that last you with no jobs? will they set up tents and give out rations of food like they do for the pakistanis and afghans? what if you get sick with no insurance and the hospital won't take you? sometimes it feels like we're all just hanging by a thread, don't it? |
even if you don't have anyone back home to fall on, aren't you better off being in your home country (or any country) than in one that's at war?
you may be overthinking this.
1) war probably won't happen.
2) if it does I am sure there is someone in the US upon whose couch you can crash.
3) if not you can stay in a cheap motel. lots of those.
4) 10 grand will last you quite a while even staying in a motel and jobless.
4) you can eat a lot of ramen while you look for a new job.
5) if you get sick with no insurance you are probably screwed.
your tent and ration question confuses me; do you mean while you're being evacuated? there will not be tents and rations for you back home, except maybe for the first day or so. then they will say, "welcome back to the USA! we've done our part! begone!" and you will go to the aforementioned cheap motel or family's couch.
I do not mean to be snarky, but I really don't think this is considered hanging by a thread. perhaps talk to some starving parentless kids in Africa or NK or Cambodia and maybe you will reevaluate what the definition of hanging by a thread is. |
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Chet Wautlands

Joined: 11 Oct 2008
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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Driving south is NOT a good option, boys and girls. If the North crosses the boarder, they will only be doing it to scare people into leaving the safety of the Great Seoul Gate (GSG). If you leave the GSG you'll find yourself with little to no coverage from attacks. The North will probably wait until there are a lot of civilians fleeing from Seoul to Daegu to launch a nuclear strike. If they time it right, and they will, the nuke will hit anyone who has fled from Seoul for safety.
This strategy has been used effectively numerous times throughout history. The most notable example would probably be when Alexander the Great defeated Napoleon at the battle of Sparta.
Stay in the GSG, stay alive. |
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Steelrails

Joined: 12 Mar 2009 Location: Earth, Solar System
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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Stand and Fight.
I am not running from that little man. Or his army.
Running just promotes panic. Don't abandon your friends and family in their time of need.
Hopefully my courage holds up when that NK tank comes rolling along.
If not, well, cowardice ain't the worst offense ever.
Not like anything is going to happen.
I will run away from that out of control drunken guy riding the tractor tho... |
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Rusty Shackleford
Joined: 08 May 2008
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:43 pm Post subject: Re: if there is a war here, then what's your plan? |
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slothrop wrote: |
what if you'v been here so long you don't even have a bank account back in your home country cause the government seized it for inactivity. ? |
Wow What country are you from? |
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grunden
Joined: 18 Apr 2009
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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Chet Wautlands wrote: |
Driving south is NOT a good option, boys and girls. If the North crosses the boarder, they will only be doing it to scare people into leaving the safety of the Great Seoul Gate (GSG). If you leave the GSG you'll find yourself with little to no coverage from attacks. The North will probably wait until there are a lot of civilians fleeing from Seoul to Daegu to launch a nuclear strike. If they time it right, and they will, the nuke will hit anyone who has fled from Seoul for safety.
This strategy has been used effectively numerous times throughout history. The most notable example would probably be when Alexander the Great defeated Napoleon at the battle of Sparta.
Stay in the GSG, stay alive. |
I am heading NORTH, to the militay bases, and stock up on thing like Cocoa puffs, lucky charms, and aunt Jamima maple syrup. I will bring my gf and she can help carry stuff back, and then make some descent food. |
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Demonicat

Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Location: Suwon
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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Bribe my way onto a ferry heading to China. |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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Chet Wautlands wrote: |
Driving south is NOT a good option, boys and girls. If the North crosses the boarder, they will only be doing it to scare people into leaving the safety of the Great Seoul Gate (GSG). If you leave the GSG you'll find yourself with little to no coverage from attacks. The North will probably wait until there are a lot of civilians fleeing from Seoul to Daegu to launch a nuclear strike. If they time it right, and they will, the nuke will hit anyone who has fled from Seoul for safety.
This strategy has been used effectively numerous times throughout history. The most notable example would probably be when Alexander the Great defeated Napoleon at the battle of Sparta.
Stay in the GSG, stay alive. |
Mind explaining the GSG? |
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antoniothegreat

Joined: 28 Aug 2005 Location: Yangpyeong
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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on a serious note...
if you are that concerned, then you should have some kind of "evacuation pack' ready. that would have essentials you need for a predetermined amount of time (until you can get back home) such as food, water, clothes, toothpaste, etc. also, it would have medical supplies and enough money to get you around (I heard like $300 with 300,000 won is good).
then, be able to seize all important documents or other items you would not want to leave behind, such as birth certificates, passports, wedding rings, etc. remember, once the tish hits the fan, you wont be thinking, so have those things already on a list with their locations so that you dont waste an hour looking for something.
next, get south as fast as possible, or if you are american, to an evacuation point. if you are in seoul, get out asap. military advisors predict seoul will suffer something like 80% casualties on the first day. meaning, if you live there and dont leave on the first day, you have an 80% chance of being dead.
next, you CAN bring more than the 10k you mentioned, you wont even be taxed, you only need to declare it. and i think in an emergency situation like war, no one will complain about bringing your entire bank account with you, so relax about that.
also remember, that in the US, the average salary for a family of four is only something like $35,000 a year. so you have a wife, meaning, you have half of the amount of people to care for, plus you arent paying taxes on that, so that money should get you covered for about 8 months.
you can find a home and a job in 8 months cant you?
anyways, relax, like others said, war most likely wont happen.
but having said that, be prepared for the worst. |
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harlowethrombey

Joined: 17 Mar 2009 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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Step 1: Start informing on other Dave's posters.
Step 2: ?
Step 3: Profit! |
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egrog1717

Joined: 12 Mar 2008
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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Chet Wautlands wrote: |
Driving south is NOT a good option, boys and girls. If the North crosses the boarder, they will only be doing it to scare people into leaving the safety of the Great Seoul Gate (GSG). If you leave the GSG you'll find yourself with little to no coverage from attacks. The North will probably wait until there are a lot of civilians fleeing from Seoul to Daegu to launch a nuclear strike. If they time it right, and they will, the nuke will hit anyone who has fled from Seoul for safety.
This strategy has been used effectively numerous times throughout history. The most notable example would probably be when Alexander the Great defeated Napoleon at the battle of Sparta.
Stay in the GSG, stay alive. |
I think you're mistaken... It was the battle of Waterloo (Ontario), not Sparta... Alexander the Great never went to Sparta... |
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Chet Wautlands

Joined: 11 Oct 2008
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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Captain Corea wrote: |
Mind explaining the GSG? |
You should look it up on Wikipedia, but I can give you a quick explanation.
Seoul has historically been a gated city. You have probably heard Namdaemun, Dongdaemun, northdaemun, and matoptmundae. These were the four gates which restricted access to the city. At the time of their construction they were largely useless as Korea was not yet at war with itself.
Times have changed and obviously the gates could no longer be used as an effective defense against modern technological warfare. Starting in the late 1980s, the Korean government, then headed by the former general Kim TuMyeong began to upgrade the defensive capabilities of the wall. It can now effectively shoot down incoming missiles. Unfortunately, this wall does not go all the way around Seoul so people on the outside are unprotected. You'll notice that all important Korean buildings are within the gate.
This is why there was such an uproar when Dongdaemun burnt down last year. Without the GSG, Seoul is a sitting goyangi (Korean for duck). |
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Chet Wautlands

Joined: 11 Oct 2008
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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egrog1717 wrote: |
I think you're mistaken... It was the battle of Waterloo (Ontario), not Sparta... Alexander the Great never went to Sparta... |
Oh, yup. I stand corrected. Anyway, the bulk of my argument stands. |
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