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WendyRose
Joined: 10 Dec 2008
Location: hanam-si, seoul
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 Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:42 pm Post subject: Guilt associated with not renewing contract |
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I'm at the 6 month mark and will not renew, but I can't seem to spit it out whenever they ask me what my plans are for next year. I feel too guilty!
Does anyone else feel ridiculously guilty for not renewing? |
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mole
Joined: 06 Feb 2003
Location: Act III
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| Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Honesty, in this case, will guarantee you don't receive your severance pay and perhaps even return flight. Historically, we call this 11th hour firing. |
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WendyRose
Joined: 10 Dec 2008
Location: hanam-si, seoul
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| Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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I won't deny that it's possible, but I kind of doubt it based on my experience here.
Also, they have a right to know because hiring someone new is not an easy process what with all the visa requirements. |
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Darashii
Joined: 08 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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I told them before I reached the one day mark that I wasn't renewing. 
Haven't seen any evidence whatsoever of future trouble. |
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poet13
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Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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Ain't no one owes no one nuthin'. And no reason at all to feel guilty or make excuses why you won't re-sign.
Think about it this way. I can almost guarantee you that they wouldn't be worrying about your welfare 6 months out. In fact, they likely aren't worried 6 minutes out. |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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If it's a public school, I'd say give them a couple months notice.
If it's a haggie, give them about as much notice as they give you. |
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bogey666
Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone
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| Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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| some waygug-in wrote: |
If it's a public school, I'd say give them a couple months notice.
If it's a haggie, give them about as much notice as they give you. |
in a public school, at least in gepik, it seems be a formal procedure.
at the 2 month mark, you sign a form saying you'd like to renew.
this "request" is then considered and approved/disapproved by a special committee (though your fate is usually predetermined way before this time)
the paperwork here is amusing at times.
but in a PS I believe you basically must let them know at the 60 day to expiration date. (which makes sense, as they need to time to find and recruit your replacement) |
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ChinaBoy
Joined: 17 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 5:06 pm Post subject: Re: Guilt associated with not renewing contract |
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| WendyRose wrote: |
I'm at the 6 month mark and will not renew, but I can't seem to spit it out whenever they ask me what my plans are for next year. I feel too guilty!
Does anyone else feel ridiculously guilty for not renewing? |
hahaa GUILTY!! WTF?
Who would feel guilty about leaving a hell hole and trying to get a BETTER job? |
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nomad-ish
Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: On the bottom of the food chain
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| Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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| just tell them you don't know until about 2 months before the end of your contract (when they need to know to hire your replacement). |
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Rory_Calhoun27
Joined: 14 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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| bogey666 wrote: |
| some waygug-in wrote: |
If it's a public school, I'd say give them a couple months notice.
If it's a haggie, give them about as much notice as they give you. |
in a public school, at least in gepik, it seems be a formal procedure.
at the 2 month mark, you sign a form saying you'd like to renew.
this "request" is then considered and approved/disapproved by a special committee (though your fate is usually predetermined way before this time)
the paperwork here is amusing at times.
but in a PS I believe you basically must let them know at the 60 day to expiration date. (which makes sense, as they need to time to find and recruit your replacement) |
Is this in writing somewhere?
Because my exp. at a PUBLIC school has been anything but serene! My FIRST coteacher became increasingly difficult to work with, to the point of refusing to answer myquestions re: the books, flipping me off when walking past me, and saying "F*CK you" when the room was only the two of us..... this culminated in her slapping me one morning, that finally got the principal's attention!
finally when teachers changed at the end of last term, I was free of her.... and the new coteacher had the misfortune of also being the ax-man when the principal told me I wouldnt be renewed, and they wanted 1) a Korean-American, or other nationality, who speaks Korean, and 2) a female.
I thought there was supposed to be some official from the BOE involved in this, and this was decided while I still had 4 months on my contract. I hoped seeing I could work with a coteacher who wasnt crazy would be allowed, but no such luck..... two weeks after the second coteacher started, SHE was replaed by another..... who also is pleasant to work with.... and oh, the school SHRUNK by 2/3 when a new public school opened in the area....
all this makes me yearn for a hagwon, where at least there you know you can't trust the boss! |
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Draz
Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam
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| Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:08 pm Post subject: Re: Guilt associated with not renewing contract |
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| ChinaBoy wrote: |
| WendyRose wrote: |
I'm at the 6 month mark and will not renew, but I can't seem to spit it out whenever they ask me what my plans are for next year. I feel too guilty!
Does anyone else feel ridiculously guilty for not renewing? |
hahaa GUILTY!! WTF?
Who would feel guilty about leaving a hell hole and trying to get a BETTER job? |
But they neeeeeeed you. I have felt guilty about leaving jobs in the past. Horrible, minimum wage jobs even. I still left, but I felt bad about it. A little. Not bad enough to quit my new, superior job and go back but still. A little bad. |
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antoniothegreat
Joined: 28 Aug 2005
Location: Yangpyeong
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| Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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feel guilty?
dont... this is not only a job... this is your life.... if no one watches out for you, and you are not watching out for you, then you will be in big trouble.
do what is best for you.
i have heard many stories here about FTs that tell too early of their intent to leave, then their treatment becomes very bad, as the school views you as just dead weight that will leave. if they dont know, they will treat you better in an attempt to make you stay.
dont worry... |
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bogey666
Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone
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| Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Rory_Calhoun27 wrote: |
| bogey666 wrote: |
| some waygug-in wrote: |
If it's a public school, I'd say give them a couple months notice.
If it's a haggie, give them about as much notice as they give you. |
in a public school, at least in gepik, it seems be a formal procedure.
at the 2 month mark, you sign a form saying you'd like to renew.
this "request" is then considered and approved/disapproved by a special committee (though your fate is usually predetermined way before this time)
the paperwork here is amusing at times.
but in a PS I believe you basically must let them know at the 60 day to expiration date. (which makes sense, as they need to time to find and recruit your replacement) |
Is this in writing somewhere?
Because my exp. at a PUBLIC school has been anything but serene! My FIRST coteacher became increasingly difficult to work with, to the point of refusing to answer myquestions re: the books, flipping me off when walking past me, and saying "F*CK you" when the room was only the two of us..... this culminated in her slapping me one morning, that finally got the principal's attention!
finally when teachers changed at the end of last term, I was free of her.... and the new coteacher had the misfortune of also being the ax-man when the principal told me I wouldnt be renewed, and they wanted 1) a Korean-American, or other nationality, who speaks Korean, and 2) a female.
I thought there was supposed to be some official from the BOE involved in this, and this was decided while I still had 4 months on my contract. I hoped seeing I could work with a coteacher who wasnt crazy would be allowed, but no such luck..... two weeks after the second coteacher started, SHE was replaed by another..... who also is pleasant to work with.... and oh, the school SHRUNK by 2/3 when a new public school opened in the area....
all this makes me yearn for a hagwon, where at least there you know you can't trust the boss! |
seems to me that the principal and or other powers that be have a right to decide whenever they want whether they want you back or not (in some unfortunate cases, they might know that as early as a month into your contract  )
they actually did you a favor by letting you know earlier, this way you have time to prepare - the worst case would be not telling you anything, until the time comes, with you planning on staying and then being told, no sorry...
typically a school's intent is "communicated" to the FT, either subtly or bluntly whether one is welcome to stay or not.
but the paperwork indeed exists and it's supposed to be filled out at the 2 month mark, (or earlier) - I just filled out the form the other day. |
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agoodmouse
Joined: 20 Dec 2007
Location: Anyang
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| Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Don't feel guilty. You have to look after #1 (i.e. yourself). You're meeting the standards for giving proper notice of leaving. |
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bundangbabo
Joined: 01 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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I have just read Wendy's website - Now I can see why she is finding it hard to say no!
You have to toughen up luv! You are not denying a kidney to your twin sister - you are telling a public school that you will be working elsewhere next year. You aren't doing anything wrong and I know this is really hard to believe but someone before you said just that to them so you won't be breaking any hearts or sending some poor soul off a cliff. Tell them the truth and keep being a good teacher while you are there.
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