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noright85



Joined: 04 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:08 am    Post subject: What am I worth? Reply with quote

First off, thank you all for being helping me out with this dilemma. This is my very first post and I'm excited about the prospect of teaching in Seoul in September.

Secondly, I've been through my undergraduate degree in Sociology with a minor in English two years ago. This past Spring, I graduated from my teaching degree after doing two years of secondary education at one of the most prestigious schools in Canada (Acadia University) I'm curious as to what I should be looking for in a contract based on my experience. Here are some of the other qualifications I have...

B.A. Sociology - Minor English
BEd. Secondary Degree - English/Social Studies (Taught grade 7 & 10)
After School Camps (2008-09)
Summer Camp experience (Pennsylvania/Wolfville) (2007-2009)
Videography Internship with middle school from Sept-Nov 2008
Residence Advisor/Senior Residence Advisor (2004-2007, 2008-2009)

All of these roles have played a huge role in the type of person I am today and I feel that I can handle the utmost responsibility in a teaching role in Korea. I have no problems with classroom management and I'm willing to invest the time necessary to ensure student success.

What am I worth to a recruiter/school?

Thanks everyone,

Leo
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the_beaver



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're worth the same as everybody else unless you get a job at a place like CDI where some branches give a little more to people with higher qualifications.
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E_athlete



Joined: 09 Jun 2009
Location: Korea sparkling

PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

with a B.Ed. you might want to consider international schools as they pay more. With your education level you will get paid more but it will be nothing compared to a FT position in Canada and detrimental to your retirement (85 factor). Having said that, you are very employable in Korea.
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noright85



Joined: 04 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the quick responses. I know what you mean about the retirement aspect of teaching; I'm not worried about it. I made a decision that I wouldn't let that effect the experiences I want to have. As far as International teaching experiences... Could you elaborate?

Beaver, I understand what you're saying. I guess my question is centered around where I would fall on a pay spectrum of 2-3mil won? What is a good offer/low ball offer?

Thanks again, guys.
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ChinaBoy



Joined: 17 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SMOE pays 1.8
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noright85



Joined: 04 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SMOE?
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thoreau



Joined: 21 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

See where you fit on the table at the bottom of this page:

http://gone2korea.com/public-school-korea.html


Each level has a corresponding pay grade. The amounts may be slightly different for 2009.
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China

PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thoreau wrote:
See where you fit on the table at the bottom of this page:

http://gone2korea.com/public-school-korea.html


Each level has a corresponding pay grade. The amounts may be slightly different for 2009.


Wow public schools are not the way to go. That money stinks.

To the OP, I am not sure how prestigious your B.Ed school is, I'm Canadian and I've never heard of it (as being prestigious - I do know where it is). Then again, I'm from Ontario. If I haven't heard of its prestigious ranking, neither have 99.99% of Koreans. I don't expect Koreans to know my B.Ed university was ranked #3 in Ontario. What you do need them to know is you are a certified teacher. Also, what type of certification and additional qualifications you have is something you can use as a bargaining chip. Does your province have a teacher's certificate or something similarly named that shows your qualifications? Have you thought of taking an ESL additional qualification course for your teaching certification? IMO it is better than doing a 100hr certificate, as you can use it to teach ESL in your home province once your stint in Korea is up, and it is on a "certificate" - your certificate of teaching. At least that is the way it is in Ontario.

Unfortunately there are tons of Canadians with B.Ed in hand going to Korea, so while you will get job offers, you won't see spectacular money. As one user said, you might want to check out specialized hawgwons that seem to pay more and want certified teachers.

You will also go off the radar with your home districts where you might want to teach when you return. A lot of young people think their Korean experience is going to open doors in Canada. It doesn't. I have 10 years experience in Korea and it didn't get me any calls over my B.Ed classmates.

People were referring to International Schools, but it is pretty darn late in the season to get one of those jobs. They usually do their hiring in January/February (sometimes earlier). International Schools teach using Western curriculum, in Korea that is either American or British curriculum.

If I were you, I would ask for 2.5-2.8 plus housing etc. For your first year that isn't too bad. One thing you will learn about Korea, it doesn't matter how much experience or education you have, 99% of places don't care about that and won't be willing to pay for it. The experience and education get you interviews or job offers, it doesn't transcend into pay raises that are spectacular.
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Goku



Joined: 10 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. Pink has a point,

You're gonna get much more money out of a hagwon.

However, a pulic school can be a good way to start off your first year. It provides you with a lot of saftey and stability. In public school you have a have an entire organinization setting the rules for you. In addition it's public school so they follow regulations. Unlike hagwon that is more likely to cheat you out of money or mess with you.

So it depends on you, you might want to consider a public school for a start. But you'll make a lot more money out of hagwon
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Lukychrm42



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Cheonan

PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With a teaching certificate, you can get a job in almost any international school. I know that many int. schools have amazing benefits for teachers... beyond airfare, nice housing, extra insurance policies, relocation benefits, car allowances, etc. Unless you're really dying to get to know the hagwon life or if you've already got an offer for a public school, I would definitely check one out... you can go anywhere!

(Spoken by one who wants to get certified soon!)
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byrddogs



Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:25 am    Post subject: Re: What am I worth? Reply with quote

You have some good credentials OP. Try not to expect them to translate the same way here as they would in your country. Be patient and continue to do your research. I get paid pretty well in ps. I did the Hakwon thing before as well (albeit overworked a bit).

noright85 wrote:
All of these roles have played a huge role in the type of person I am today and I feel that I can handle the utmost responsibility in a teaching role in Korea. I have no problems with classroom management and I'm willing to invest the time necessary to ensure student success.


Don't kid yourself on this. Altough you might be more prepared than most; this isn't Canada by any stretch of the imagination and teaching there is most likely nothing like teaching here.
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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!

PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ship won.
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