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Emeliu



Joined: 31 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:26 am    Post subject: Transfering to a Korean university Reply with quote

I'm going to Korea for the TaLK program, and I'm in the middle of my college education for a TESOL degree. I was thinking of transferring to a Korean university and finishing my degree there so I could master the language .

Would a Korean degree be detrimental to my career as an English teacher in South Korea?
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halfmanhalfbiscuit



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For an E2 visa it will be. F4 it wouldn't. (Just taking a stab here)
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GoldMember



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This person regards teaching English in South Korea as a career!! AND wants to study in Korea AND wants to master Korean!!
Gotta live one here!
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Goon-Yang



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And why not. If you know what you are doing you can make more $$ here than you could at home. Not many $80-$100 an hour jobs back home.

Oh you poor people with one job working for a hagwon/public school.
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crossmr



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unless you have korean ancestors or marry a korean before you finish school, yes the korean degree will hurt you. You can't get a teaching visa with a degree from a non-english speaking country.
However, if your university does exchange with a korean university you might be able to do some exchange here for a year or two and finish up your degree and still have it issued by your home university (got a friend who is going to do exchange at yonsei, he's already done like 2 years in Canada).
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Emeliu



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crossmr wrote:
Unless you have korean ancestors or marry a korean before you finish school, yes the korean degree will hurt you. You can't get a teaching visa with a degree from a non-english speaking country.
However, if your university does exchange with a korean university you might be able to do some exchange here for a year or two and finish up your degree and still have it issued by your home university (got a friend who is going to do exchange at yonsei, he's already done like 2 years in Canada).


Really? That's downright terrible! So I have to get married or graduate somewhere else? Sigh
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crossmr



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Emeliu wrote:
crossmr wrote:
Unless you have korean ancestors or marry a korean before you finish school, yes the korean degree will hurt you. You can't get a teaching visa with a degree from a non-english speaking country.
However, if your university does exchange with a korean university you might be able to do some exchange here for a year or two and finish up your degree and still have it issued by your home university (got a friend who is going to do exchange at yonsei, he's already done like 2 years in Canada).


Really? That's downright terrible! So I have to get married or graduate somewhere else? Sigh


Yes. the teaching visa regulations require a university degree from one of the 7 native english countries. A foreigner who graduated from the english education program over at hufs had a story about being unable to get a job in Korea. however if you get married you can change to an F2 visa and immigration no longer controls your employment.
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Emeliu



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crossmr wrote:
Emeliu wrote:
crossmr wrote:
Unless you have korean ancestors or marry a korean before you finish school, yes the korean degree will hurt you. You can't get a teaching visa with a degree from a non-english speaking country.
However, if your university does exchange with a korean university you might be able to do some exchange here for a year or two and finish up your degree and still have it issued by your home university (got a friend who is going to do exchange at yonsei, he's already done like 2 years in Canada).


Really? That's downright terrible! So I have to get married or graduate somewhere else? Sigh


Yes. the teaching visa regulations require a university degree from one of the 7 native english countries. A foreigner who graduated from the english education program over at hufs had a story about being unable to get a job in Korea. however if you get married you can change to an F2 visa and immigration no longer controls your employment.


So, basicly, I have to convince a girl to marry me even though I'm making no income xD
Thanks for all the information.
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crossmr



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Emeliu wrote:


So, basicly, I have to convince a girl to marry me even though I'm making no income xD
Thanks for all the information.

Depending on your age it might not be as hard as you think Wink
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halfmanhalfbiscuit



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crossmr wrote:
Unless you have korean ancestors or marry a korean before you finish school, yes the korean degree will hurt you. You can't get a teaching visa with a degree from a non-english speaking country.
However, if your university does exchange with a korean university you might be able to do some exchange here for a year or two and finish up your degree and still have it issued by your home university (got a friend who is going to do exchange at yonsei, he's already done like 2 years in Canada).


Likewise have a friend who did Japanese and Korean Language through Monash Univ. in Melbourne and did a portion (6 months to a year) at Yonsei.

Yes, with F series visas you don't need the degree, transcripts or criminal checks which are merely to satisfy Immigration. Employers may not be aware of this though and may insist on things they do not need. In which case, just point it out or flag.

Top of their list though is an overseas degree which is fine. Other stuff is just going to end up in some file (read: get thrown out)
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Emeliu



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

halfmanhalfbiscuit wrote:
crossmr wrote:
Unless you have korean ancestors or marry a korean before you finish school, yes the korean degree will hurt you. You can't get a teaching visa with a degree from a non-english speaking country.
However, if your university does exchange with a korean university you might be able to do some exchange here for a year or two and finish up your degree and still have it issued by your home university (got a friend who is going to do exchange at yonsei, he's already done like 2 years in Canada).


Likewise have a friend who did Japanese and Korean Language through Monash Univ. in Melbourne and did a portion (6 months to a year) at Yonsei.

Yes, with F series visas you don't need the degree, transcripts or criminal checks which are merely to satisfy Immigration. Employers may not be aware of this though and may insist on things they do not need. In which case, just point it out or flag.

Top of their list though is an overseas degree which is fine. Other stuff is just going to end up in some file (read: get thrown out)


So if I transfer I'm eligible to teach English?
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halfmanhalfbiscuit



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Emeliu wrote:
halfmanhalfbiscuit wrote:
crossmr wrote:
Unless you have korean ancestors or marry a korean before you finish school, yes the korean degree will hurt you. You can't get a teaching visa with a degree from a non-english speaking country.
However, if your university does exchange with a korean university you might be able to do some exchange here for a year or two and finish up your degree and still have it issued by your home university (got a friend who is going to do exchange at yonsei, he's already done like 2 years in Canada).


Likewise have a friend who did Japanese and Korean Language through Monash Univ. in Melbourne and did a portion (6 months to a year) at Yonsei.

Yes, with F series visas you don't need the degree, transcripts or criminal checks which are merely to satisfy Immigration. Employers may not be aware of this though and may insist on things they do not need. In which case, just point it out or flag.

Top of their list though is an overseas degree which is fine. Other stuff is just going to end up in some file (read: get thrown out)


So if I transfer I'm eligible to teach English?


Depends entirely on what visa

E2-Overseas awarded degree to be eligible
F Series- Don't require any degree to be eligible

There's probably some scheme where overseas educated non-graduates can teach for 1.0- 1.5M per month.
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Emeliu



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

halfmanhalfbiscuit wrote:
Emeliu wrote:
halfmanhalfbiscuit wrote:
crossmr wrote:
Unless you have korean ancestors or marry a korean before you finish school, yes the korean degree will hurt you. You can't get a teaching visa with a degree from a non-english speaking country.
However, if your university does exchange with a korean university you might be able to do some exchange here for a year or two and finish up your degree and still have it issued by your home university (got a friend who is going to do exchange at yonsei, he's already done like 2 years in Canada).


Likewise have a friend who did Japanese and Korean Language through Monash Univ. in Melbourne and did a portion (6 months to a year) at Yonsei.

Yes, with F series visas you don't need the degree, transcripts or criminal checks which are merely to satisfy Immigration. Employers may not be aware of this though and may insist on things they do not need. In which case, just point it out or flag.

Top of their list though is an overseas degree which is fine. Other stuff is just going to end up in some file (read: get thrown out)


So if I transfer I'm eligible to teach English?


Depends entirely on what visa

E2-Overseas awarded degree to be eligible
F Series- Don't require any degree to be eligible

There's probably some scheme where overseas educated non-graduates can teach for 1.0- 1.5M per month.


I thought F series were only given to Korean Americans ?
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crossmr



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I thought F series were only given to Korean Americans ?

F4s are for Korean Americans/Canadians, or a few other countries.
F2s are for spouses of Korean citizens
F5s are for long-term spouses or some business owners in Korea.
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Emeliu



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I don't understand is, education in English up until my junior year in college (Including English TESOL courses) aren't enough : ( i have to actually graduate from an English speaking country. Sigh!!
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