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DrugstoreCowgirl



Joined: 08 May 2009
Location: Daegu-where the streets have no name

PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:28 am    Post subject: When to Buy a Ticket? Reply with quote

My friend and I have found tickets to Seoul that we'd like to buy but we aren't sure when to do it. In the package I got with my EPIK contract one paper says to buy it when you've applied for your visa, and another said to wait until you have your visa back from the consulate. We are sending out papers to the consulate on Monday.

When did all of you buy your tickets? Did you wait until you got your visa back, or do you never get denied visas once you have a contract in hand?
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alphakennyone



Joined: 01 Aug 2005
Location: city heights

PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i know you want to save money by buying early (me too), but anything and everything can and will happen in this game.

Wait until you have your passport and visa in hand. That's the problem with the "airfare reimbursement" system (as opposed to flights paid directly by the employer). The teachers are the ones who have to front the last minute higher costs...and who tends to rush you but then does everything slow and half assed? The schools and recruiters.
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow... Cowgirl, you are naive. People have arrived in K-land only to told they are not what the owner/principal expected... "OMG you're black/fat/ugly... I'm not paying for your ticket here" (or back).

Ks have no sense of honour - only 'face'. You are as disposable as the garbage.

Never come to K-land unless they pay 'up front'... or you're renewing a PS contract.


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winterfall



Joined: 21 May 2009

PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cruisemonkey wrote:
Wow... Cowgirl, you are naieve. People have arrived in K-land only to told they are not what the owne/principalr expected... "OMG you're black!"... I'm not paying for your ticket here (or back).

Ks have no sense of honour - only 'face'. You are as disposable as the garbage.


Cruisemonkey. Your a very 'Inspiring' person.

OP. Check the refund policy. Buy your ticket now while its still relatively cheap. Do everything you can to make sure you clear your visa stuff BEFORE you leave. And everything 'll work out.
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Chambertin



Joined: 07 Jun 2009
Location: Gunsan

PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do not buy your ticket before you are with valid visa in hand.

The school pays you back, sure it takes a little bit. If you are worried about price then don�t book through a US carrier. Most Asian airline websites or Asian travel sites I have been watching haven�t changed their price in two months.
Roughly 1,050 USD to Incheon through Korean Air is about as consistent as it gets.

If you do buy it now and something changes, or at worst the school drops you there is a chance to save maybe a hundred dollars. It�s not worth it to buy in advance. If you want to book now and pay later then do that, but don�t pay until that visa is in your hand.
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't help but be 'inspiring' after I've seen the number of people (I've seen) burnt by Ks. If you haven't been... it's only a matter of time.
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winterfall



Joined: 21 May 2009

PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chambertin wrote:
Do not buy your ticket before you are with valid visa in hand.

The school pays you back, sure it takes a little bit. If you are worried about price then don�t book through a US carrier. Most Asian airline websites or Asian travel sites I have been watching haven�t changed their price in two months.
Roughly 1,050 USD to Incheon through Korean Air is about as consistent as it gets.

If you do buy it now and something changes, or at worst the school drops you there is a chance to save maybe a hundred dollars. It�s not worth it to buy in advance. If you want to book now and pay later then do that, but don�t pay until that visa is in your hand.


$1050 US!?!?!?. Your gonna spend all the money they give you? Fly budget and keep the difference. Don't fly Korean Air. They're horrendously expensive. Asiana's cheaper but even they're pretty bad. I got a one way ticket from NYC to Korea for $680 (Plus Insurance) with one layover. Without the insurance it was $600 US.

There's loads of ways to get a cheaper ticket and not fly on a death trap airline. Search Travel sites and then call a bunch of travel agents and start a bidding war. Most of em will even try to match the online price.

cruisemonkey wrote:


I can't help but be 'inspiring' after I've seen the number of people (I've seen) burnt by Ks. If you haven't been... it's only a matter of time.


Fair enough. I'm optimistic. Working with SMOE and bureaucracies in general are more reluctant to break contracts than private.
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DrugstoreCowgirl



Joined: 08 May 2009
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cruisemonkey wrote:
Wow... Cowgirl, you are naive. People have arrived in K-land only to told they are not what the owner/principal expected... "OMG you're black/fat/ugly... I'm not paying for your ticket here" (or back).

Ks have no sense of honour - only 'face'. You are as disposable as the garbage.

Never come to K-land unless they pay 'up front'... or you're renewing a PS contract.


I wouldn't say I am naive. How else are you supposed to get to Korea when the public schools don't reimburse you until your first month???

And I guess I'm in luck as I'm not black/fat/ugly Laughing
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Chambertin



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You pay for what you get.

Roll in the fees you pay for drinks, headphones, emergency row, window, luggage, and the rest of the crap they charge you and tell me you won�t fly a major Asian airline over anyone else.

I remember when United allowed two heavy bags, a carry on, a day bag, and free drinks. This was three years ago. Now you have to beg them to allow you sit in the seat you reserved because the rest of the customers don�t mind paying the extra fees.

I flew on Northwest to Japan two years ago for work. It was a paid ticket. They tried to charge me 15$ per leg to sit in the exit row. Charged me 50$ per bag because it was overweight. They pulled the same going back, and I was also stuck in Chicago for nearly a day due to scheduling f'ups. It was so bad that the plane which never docked at the terminal was shown to have left on time for 5 hours after it never showed. Eventually they changed it after I showed the main office a photo of the teleprompter.

They also decided to shut down all phone lines and pull all workers out of the terminal rather than try to fix the situation.
Go go bailout money.

I paid more out of pocket than the difference would have been to upgrade to a real airline.

That being said I am curious as to the conditoins for the 700$ tickets. I'm willing to bet its not worth the risk considering none of us will end up paying for the ticket.
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alphakennyone



Joined: 01 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm seeing Singapore air from San Diego to Seoul one way for $700 and Korean Air for 650.

VERY tempted to try out Singapore Air, but I'll wait til I've got my visa.
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DrugstoreCowgirl wrote:
And I guess I'm in luck as I'm not black/fat/ugly Laughing

The reason I used the term "renewing" when refering to a PS contract is that you might have a big nose and the principal will claim you 'photo shopped' your picture. Wink

If you're PS, the odds are 98% in your favour there won't be a problem. However, the horror stories are on the upswing (for what that's worth).

Good luck... I'm sure you're beautiful.
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DrugstoreCowgirl



Joined: 08 May 2009
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cruisemonkey wrote:
DrugstoreCowgirl wrote:
And I guess I'm in luck as I'm not black/fat/ugly Laughing

The reason I used the term "renewing" when refering to a PS contract is that you might have a big nose and the principal will claim you 'photo shopped' your picture. Wink

If you're PS, the odds are 98% in your favour there won't be a problem. However, the horror stories are on the upswing (for what that's worth).

Good luck... I'm sure you're beautiful.


Yeah I've been reading all of them! It's such a crap shoot over there, I'm just praying for a good school like my friend has.

And that's so funny that they would accuse people of photoshopping your pictures taken by Walgreens hah.
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oskinny1



Joined: 10 Nov 2006
Location: Right behind you!

PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DrugstoreCowgirl wrote:

And that's so funny that they would accuse people of photoshopping your pictures taken by Walgreens hah.


Common practice in Korea. Just take a look at your school's yearbook. You'll be hard pressed to recognize any of the teachers they're so airbrushed.
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