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Emeliu
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Zantetsuken
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| I wonder if SuperJunior/2Ne1/Girls Generation fans would like this... |
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phoneboothface
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Wow dad's english is almost as good his Korean.
Seriously though I like that song... relative to others here... |
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kabrams
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Location: your Dad's house
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| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:45 am Post subject: |
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Wow dad's english is almost as good his Korean. |
Yeah, exactly!  |
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phoneboothface
Joined: 26 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:00 am Post subject: |
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haha whoops. well at least my ebonics would beat his korean skillz any day.  |
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kabrams
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| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:19 am Post subject: |
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| haha whoops. well at least my ebonics would beat his korean skillz any day. |
What's wrong with ebonics? |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap
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| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:49 am Post subject: |
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Talented & attractive.
Brings to mind another story about a half-Korean half-American girl thats been discussed at Daves before but maybe not recently.
Check it out if you dont know it. You'll be moved.
www.ted.com/talks/rick_smolan_tells_the_story_of_a_girl.html |
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djsmnc
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:14 am Post subject: |
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| kabrams wrote: |
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| haha whoops. well at least my ebonics would beat his korean skillz any day. |
What's wrong with ebonics? |
It's a phony term used to represent urban vernacular as a separate language when it's really just a cultural variation of English. |
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Scamps
Joined: 01 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:23 am Post subject: |
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| Amerie is another singer whose half Korean, half Black. Her dad met her mom when he was working in the Army here. |
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Tundra_Creature
Joined: 11 Jun 2009
Location: Canada
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| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 6:41 am Post subject: |
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| Very nice, in a sad way. She can certainly rap though (and by the sounds of it so far, can sing as well). Looks like I'll have to check what other songs she's done. |
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Scotticus
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| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:48 am Post subject: |
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It's a phony term used to represent urban vernacular as a separate language when it's really just a cultural variation of English. |
What pisses me off the most is that it's officially called BVE - Black Vernacular English. I'm not sure how such a [Mod Edit] (what I would call) racist term somehow became the standard. BVE is, quite obviously, based on socio-economic status and NOT race. To say otherwise is ludicrous. |
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Emeliu
Joined: 31 Mar 2009
Location: Korea, i'm OMW
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| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:36 am Post subject: |
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| Scotticus wrote: |
| djsmnc wrote: |
It's a phony term used to represent urban vernacular as a separate language when it's really just a cultural variation of English. |
What pisses me off the most is that it's officially called BVE - Black Vernacular English. I'm not sure how such a [Mod Edit] (what I would call) racist term somehow became the standard. BVE is, quite obviously, based on socio-economic status and NOT race. To say otherwise is ludicrous. |
White people are called white people, black people are called black people. It's not racist, but it would make more sense if it were called AAVE, African American Vernacular English as it originates in America and is used mostly by African Americans lol, however, nowadays there is a growing number of white people who use AAVE (keke), and even I use it nowadays. (Fo Sho, Fo Shiz, etc.) [used mostly in jest] |
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Bronski
Joined: 17 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:39 am Post subject: |
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| Scotticus wrote: |
| djsmnc wrote: |
It's a phony term used to represent urban vernacular as a separate language when it's really just a cultural variation of English. |
What pisses me off the most is that it's officially called BVE - Black Vernacular English. I'm not sure how such a [Mod Edit] (what I would call) racist term somehow became the standard. BVE is, quite obviously, based on socio-economic status and NOT race. To say otherwise is ludicrous. |
You can be pissed off about the name if you want (I've usually heard it called AAVE, same kind of thing), but it is a real variation of English. Race does have something to do with it, as African-Americans didn't fully integrate with the white community during slavery, Jim Crow, etc. It shares a lot of features with Southern American English. It's not just vocabulary (a lot of people think it's just urban slang), but consists of differences in pronunciation, grammar, etc.
Still, lay people like to call it Ebonics and make bad jokes about it on talk radio.
I'm not getting into the debate on whether or not it should be taught in public schools. That's another story. |
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Hyeon Een
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I'm not getting into the debate on whether or not it should be taught in public schools. That's another story. |
I'm not American and probably have less knowledge about the subject than you do. However, I was under the impression that ebonics was never 'taught' in schools, rather that it was recognised as a different dialect and students who DID speak ebonics were offered extra tutoring so that they could communicate with 'regular' Americans. Was there ever a time or place in the US where students were TAUGHT ebonics as a language? |
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Joe666
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| Ebonics is also "used" by a majority of the Latino population in the U.S. I would agree that it has a strong connection with socio-economic status, but that is not an absolute. It's my understanding that certain "Ebonic" terms are becoming legitimate and making there way into standard dictionaries. |
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